Is the question whether or not you can go straight from the color box into the delay without any issues or changes to the signal chain? And the guitar is your Fender acoustic, the thin bodied one?
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Guitar is the Fender highway series parlor with the thin body(love this guitar). 404 is handling recording duties!
Iām assuming the preamp should be at the end of chain so Iām wondering if itās still doing what I need if itās before the delay. Also would plugging the El Cap directly in for recording be a problem.
Sorry, I know what I wanna ask but having a hard time wording it correctly!
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No, I understand now that you cleared it up. Yes, I think it will be fine to do it that way. You want the preamp boosting the level before the delay and I think sending the stereo outs of the delay straight into the 404 is fine. The delay wonāt kill your levels or anything.
Your acoustic (specifically) may not be too bad with this since itās engineered with being an A/E in mind, but in my experience with less articulate acoustic electric pickups and delay pedals is that itās a tenuous balance between sounding good and freaking out, and itās a lot easier to get unintentional feedback than with an electric guitar, so test your settings until you get something that youāre happy with at a variety of strumming levels.
Also, Iām pretty sure that the way the el cap stereo in and L/R outs work is that for use with guitar, you have to make sure the jumper inside is set to receive a mono source for playing with a mono input, and it will still send signal out of both outputs.
If you switch the jumper to stereo, it will expect a stereo cable and a stereo signal coming into it from a TRS cable with 2 lines on the jack. So, unless your guitar happens to have a stereo output pickup, just stick to a normal TS guitar cable and if your pedal is already set to mono input then you shouldnāt need to open it up.
Just thinking that if youāve been using it with a Y cable out of the digitone then you might have it set to stereo, but I donāt want to overcomplicate things for you. If youāve only used it with guitar then Iām sure you have it set to mono already.
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Good stuff @shigginpit! Thanks!
Didnāt even think of the stereo aspect of the line in. I have the V2 so I think itās a button combo but youāre right, itās currently set to stereo. Iāll have to change that.
This guitar plays fantastic with pedals. Would have been better not knowing that, donāt need another thing to obsess over and throw money at!
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Do you have an EQ pedal, or does colorbox have any EQ settings? Again, your acoustic specifically may not need it, but Iāve always found that an acoustic with an electric pickup will benefit from a little extra eq if you want to hit the sweet spot.
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Colour box handles the EQ. Does an amazing job! I canāt say enough about that pedal!
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Preamps are always first in chain for meeeee:)
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Interesting, so thereās no real set way of doing it. I was using the DI out of the Colour box so I assumed it had to be that way.
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A preamp would usually come before anything you want to amplify, a DI is often bringing the level up before going into a mixer. The pedal itself sort of confuses the issue by being both, but itās typically the job of a DI pedal to bring levels up to that of a mixing desk.
Iām pretty sure the color box is more of a preamp but I havenāt looked into it too heavily.
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If it were me, Id go, guitar to colour box and any config after thatā¦usualy stereo stuff lastā¦
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All good stuff!
So I technically donāt need the DI aspect for recording into line level inputs(assuming thatās the 404)?
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I think the output will be fine going through the delay pedal into the 404 but watch your levels, start low to make sure the delay feedback doesnāt scream.
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Awesome!
One of the reasons I stayed away from pedals is I knew it would take time away from actually playing. That said, once you dial in a sound itās so easy to get lost in it and helps creatively!
I guess I out grew my ghetto white claw pedal board now! Going to have to get creative!
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Just seen an email from Line 6
Theyāre updating the Helix hardware this year, taking preorders now.
Iām happy with my Helix floor, havenāt felt the need to look for anything else, but itāll be interesting to see how they approach their next generation of modelling
Edit - forgot the link
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Yeesh, eye watering prices, although I havenāt had my eyes on that price point in quite some time so maybe with Neural and Kemper as options thatās where things are today. Stillā¦
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Iām still happy with my HX Stomp.
No doubt the advances in Helix Stadium will eventually trickle down to the HX family.
Craig Anderton is in LA for the Helix 10th Anniversary party. He posted this among other stuff:
If you do solo gigs with backing tracks, the Showcase playback/automation engine is a HUGE advancement with no other equivalent
He also stated if you are primarily a studio/home user, ājust wait until the Native version comes out and youāll get the better amps.ā
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So earlier this week I was trying to figure out if I could squeeze Lossy tones out of the 404MKII and discovered that one of the reverbs on it if cranked will start to feedback on itself. The effects chain I came up with (Reverb into Cassette Sim into Super Filter into Lo-Fi) made some pretty Sonic Youth sounding tones and I was listening to Lee Renaldo this week, so I decided to try to do something along those lines.
The guitar is my telecaster into the SP404MKII with that effects chain above and the built-in amp sim. No other pedals. I did add the tiniest bit of delay in Logic so that the tail didnāt cut off so abruptly, but itās almost entirely SP-404MKII for the guitar sound.
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Sounds great!
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i tend to use over drive and delay only but for a long while i used the natural amp break up and the volume on my guitar and that was it no pedal s straight through - still think its the best way to focus on th playing, that said its nice to get lost in a delay pedal
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Theres something special about a maxed out amp being cleaned up by rolling off the input from the guitar.
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