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#466

I think you are right, i remember this behaviour - now the Sound Pool only shows viable sounds if you browse via the Sound Browser

But I wondered if the Step Based (lock via TrackLevel Enc) selection was obscuring the ! because of the long preset names, so i truncated those and it will show ALL the pool sounds (even the incompatible ones) and there are no !s and no warnings if you load a ‘wrong’ one

however if you copy the track to one where the wrong lock is welcome the soundlock is working fine

I’m unsure if this step based sound-locking always worked this way or whether it has lost the !s or whether you just need to be aware

Either way, it appears the device and manual are out of sync, somehow !

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#467

Ha! interesting. haven’t tried that…

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#468

just wondering whether there is some utility in being able to soundlock wrong sounds purposely (without warning) … not sure there is tbh, looks like the manual is behind the device

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#469

Yeah, probably. but who knows…

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#470

Did a google search and found this…not too many replies, though.

Understanding sound locks - Elektron Gear / Analog Rytm - Elektronauts

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#471

hmm, indeed … i’m getting old … corrupt RAM :zonked:

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#472

:smiley:

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#473

Hi there, seeking clarification on what this (specifically the bit about using the level knob to set the overarching velocity range) means in the Rytm manual since it doesn’t appear to me to do that…

thanks @avantronica for the pointer to here

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#474

my qualified take is presented here - i believe the documentation is lacking clarity - i do not believe it’s even possible that the device is lacking this ‘hinted at / or interpreted’ functionality

but there is no doubt that the phrase …

Use the TRACK LEVEL knob to set the overarching velocity range.

… is muddying the waters, i don’t believe it does more than ‘meter’ input and offer a partially useful velocity ‘controller’ (as explained in my linked reply)

A clarification/amendment should be forthcoming either way

#475

Hi there!

While digging through the AMP section of the Octatrack manual (page 59), I can’t really figure out what FX are reffered by :

  • The multi mode filter FX > There is only one FX called FILTER, so I guess that’s the one but it could surely use it’s exact FX name here

  • The amplitude modulator FX > By searching with these words in the whole pdf, the only occurrences occur within the LO-FI FX described at page 132. So i’m making a guess that the AMP documentation actually refers that FX too.

Are my guesses correct ?

Wouldn’t it be worth to update the documentation p59 so that it refers to FX with their exact names ?

Manual:

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So, in my personnal notes, I have re-written the whole AMP Setup section like so :

- Setup

AMP: Defines where envelope starts from
	ANLG: The envelope starts from the current envelope level when the sample is trigged
	RTRG: The envelope starts from zero when the sample is trigged (default)
	R+T: The envelope starts from zero when a Sample Trig or a Trigless Trig is met
	TTRG: The envelope starts from the current envelope level when a Sample Trig or a Trigless Trig is met

SYNC: Toggles if the envelope should be synced to the OT BPM or not
	ON (default)
	OFF

ATCK: Defines Attack curve type
	LIN: Linear (default)
	LOG: Exponential > Allows for smooth fade ins

FX1: Controls how the envelope affects FX1
	ANLG: 
		With Filter FX, the filter envelope starts from the current envelope level instead of starting from zero when a Sample Trig is met
		With Lo-Fi FX, the phase restarts when a Sample Trig is met

	RTRG: 
		With Filter FX, the filter envelope starts from zero when a Sample Trig is met
		With Lo-Fi FX, the phase restarts when a Sample Trig is met
	R+T:
		With Filter FX, the filter envelope starts from zero when a Sample Trig or a Trigless Trig is met
		With Lo-Fi FX, the phase restarts when a Sample Trig or a Trigless Trig is met
	TTRG:
		With Filter FX, the filter envelope starts from the current envelope level instead of starting from zero when a Sample Trig or Trigless Trig is trigged
		With Lo-Fi FX, the phase restarts when a Sample Trig or a Trigless Trig is trigged

Can someone please convirm I have not mis-interpreted anything ? I would very much appreciate it

Regards,
David

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#476

Just came accross that bit way above in this thread, from Feb '19

The Octatrack manual has been written, rewritten, and edited by multiple people over the years. The most merciful thing would be to put it out of its misery and the rewrite the whole thing… But that would be so much work that I’m afraid it will never happen.

In yesterday’s world, one poor guy would have had the tremendous and unwise task of doing it all by himself.

In today’s world, publishing the documentation on github and letting 1000+ people iterate over it in an open-source manner will yield way better results both in terms of quality and speed, in addition of making the whole process humanely manageable.

All you have to do is:

  • Publish the whole OT documentation in an easily editable format (Markdown is common, for instance) to an official Elektron repository
  • List the 10 most well-versed and trustworthy people from the Elektronauts forum and propose them to become moderator/maintainer/expert and supervise the repository (in addition to a few Elektron persons who remain owner of it)
  • Give and enfroce guidelines such as:
    • No-one ever writes directly to the main repository
    • Documentation changes can be proposed by anyone, by creating small, fine-grained Pull Requests. That’s very important.
    • Every Pull Request is reviewed, debated and fine-tuned by the maintainers you have appointed.
    • Changes can be merged to the main repo only by these people, Pull Request after Pull Request, in an itterative way.

On the + side, you can fully automate the generation and upload of the pdf to Elektron servers every time the main repository is updated.

You can start with one product (like the OT) to get the hand of it all and once you are comfortable with it, extend to other products, one by one (by creating specific repository for each).

I, for sure, would make proposals and, judging by this thread, I’m sure I’m not the only one.

That’s quite easy to do actualy, all in all.

And if you don’t want to do it by yourself, you can find IT people to help you (like me).

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#477

@eangman re-reading the latest Rytm manual, I noticed a rogue “POLYPHONY” in the Index, ostensibly on page 30 - but it’s not there.
Maybe the Index needs regenerated?

#478

AR Mk1 OS 1.70 manual, we Mk1 enthusiasts don’t have no purple led. :upside_down_face:

Page 42:

When you turn on Euclidean mode for a track, the [REC] button will turn purple, indicating the mode is active

And the DVCO still describes the old behaviour with 24 values in an octave for osc 2 and 48 values in an octave for osc 2 . I haven’t checked DVCO since the update, but I read that there have been changes.

#479

On the Digitone manual, page 65, section 14.2.1 Sound Browser, where it says “Press [FUNC]+[TRIG 9-16] to select Sound bank A-H”, it should say “Press [BANK]+[TRIG 9-16]”.

The exact same bug repeats on the next page, at the 14.2.2 Sound Manager section.

I’m looking at https://cdn.www.elektron.se/media/downloads/syntakt/Syntakt_User_Manual_ENG_OS1.21_231108.pdf which is the current version from this month, and it has a different but still incorrect instruction.

What it currently has is

Press [TRIG 9–16] to select sound bank A–H.

What it should say is

Press [BANK]+[TRIG 9–16] to select sound bank A–H.

This applies to both the Sound Browser and Sound Manager sections of the Syntakt manual.

The same bug is in https://cdn.www.elektron.se/media/downloads/digitakt/Digitakt_User_Manual_ENG_OS1.51_231108.pdf.

Thanks!

I checked the Digitone manual https://cdn.www.elektron.se/media/downloads/digitone/Digitone_User_Manual_ENG_OS1.41_231108.pdf has the correct instruction.

I also checked https://cdn.www.elektron.se/media/downloads/analog-four-mkii/Analog-Four-MKII-User-Manual_ENG_OS1.51C_220204.pdf and it has a different doc bug: it doesn’t mention this feature at all. On the A4 unlike the Digi-guys, you do just press a trig key with no modifier to change banks in the Sound Browser/Manager.

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#480

The Octatrack manual has only one reference to the MULTIPLY functionality for pickup machines, in the MIDI implementation section of the appendix. There’s no other information about this useful feature or how to do it in the pickup machine or key combination sections.

Multiply just doubles the length of a pickup machine’s buffer, duplicating the audio. It allows you to overdub for some extra variation over a longer period. A pretty handy feature.

Aside from the MIDI note command you can use to do it you can also hold the track button + REC3. I don’t even know where I found out how to do that now, I think it was a forum post about patch notes that had a reference to it or something. Tx + REC3 works for the OT Mk.2 btw, I think the Mk.1 uses something else, seems to be Tx + the MIDI button if the couple of threads about multiply are accurate.

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Octatrack OS 1.40A: bug reports
#481

Just a follow up to the post below (and our little discussion @avantronica):

1.70 fixed this issue and now incompatible sounds are crossed out in the sound pool.
However, this isn’t reflected in the manual which still shows the original text (now on page 48).

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#482

Interesting, I was trying to do this vid the audio editor which has a duplicate > function but it seemed to do nothing. Will try out this track+rec 3.

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#483

@eangman, it could be nice to add in A4’s manual a paragraph about mattias/@_mr’s precisions on amplitude modulation, maybe.

The use of PWM depending on the waveform is not something one can come up with by themselves I guess :tongue:

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#484

:elan: Analog Four 1.51C manual –

10.6.2 SPD
Sets the speed of the arpeggiator. It is synchronized to the BPM of the project. A setting of 6 equals 16th notes, a setting of 12 equals 8th notes and so on.

No offense, but “and so on” might deserve elaboration. Like maybe a table.

From reading the paragraph, without consulting the forum, I’m doing these calculations in my head:

1? - 64th notes?
3? - 32nd notes?
6 - 16th notes
12 - 8th notes
16? 24? - 1/4 notes?
32? - 1/2 notes?

Maybe it’s somewhere else in the manual

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#485

The confusion has indeed been been there ever since:

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