The beginnings of a new setup

I’m looking to get together a new setup when eventually I am to have a A4 mk2 as my central synth but I wanted to start with a digitakt and use that as my master and connect that to maybe a new analogue solutions Treadstone or 0 coast.

Does anyone have any experi nice of this creating a daft punk / Mars Volta type sound.

Thanks

You’re going to need a compressor. The Treadstone kinda makes sense for the types of sound you’re after, but I’d say the 0-coast doesn’t.

The Pioneer AS-1 might make more sense as a analogue mono voice to go with the Digitakt for this type of music. It’s essentially an updated Sequential Circuits Pro One and it has tons of presets in the bass and lead category that should fit the bill exactly.

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Are there any other options as compressors? Also why would I need one?

To get that compact, disco sound.

A Digitakt with the right samples will get you very far. Start with that. Also, if you’re getting a synth, consider one with a keyboard. The harmonies and structures of your references are deceptively complex and you’re more likely to find that musical depth through a set of keys.

Google “daft punk compressor tutorial”.

Good advice. A nice analogue poly would be ideal. Expensive, but ideal.

If you’re on a budget, and you’re more interested in producing this style of music, rather than working with hardware, it might make more sense to work ITB with a decent controller keyboard or pad controller and a few good plugins.

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Despite my love for hardware, I second the advise of staying ITB with a solid controller to boost, if you’re on a budget.

Given that some of Daft Punk’s records (sticking to the reference) are heavily processed and works a lot with samples (though most, if not all, of their sampled stuff are just material they’ve created themselves and then warped), in the end, the raw and warm nature of a pure analogue might get lost in translation anyway. There are a lot of amazing software options out there for processing sound, and Daft Punk especially aren’t known for being great sound designers, but rather great producers and composers, who do interesting thing with a simple (but sometimes ingenous) structure and a fairly plain sound.

That’s why it’s easy to edit almost any proper synth to sound like many of the classic Daft Punk bass and lead sounds. They’re just not that special. It’s what they did with those sounds, that made them into something else. Heck, the A4 even has a few patches shamelessly named after the Dafters, more or less fetched from their Homework / Discovery / Human After All-era in music making.

And for that purpose, the arguments for hardware become more a tactile one, and less one about a specific sound.

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Hi, some great advice hear. Will definitely check out that daft punk link. I was thinking of either a A4 or multiple mono synths like a nyborg12 and a Treadstone with the digitakt. Any other synths you would recommend for this sound. I just love the sound of both elektron kit and Analogue Solutions. I think they would be a great mix. Total budget is really no more than £2500 absolute max.

That’s true for their more recent stuff, but their older tracks are sometimes almost entirely based on existing tracks. See for example https://www.whosampled.com/Daft-Punk/

Modern component-modelling plugins should sound sufficiently raw and warm for this purpose. :slight_smile:

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I do think you shouldn’t spend it all at once. If you’re still exploring, gear and the amount of it and its complexity will distract you and potentially even overwhelm you. Especially if you’re gunning for an A4, which is a terrific instrument but also deep to the point that it sometimes defeats its purpose of a musical instrument. No one needs all the things an A4 can do. But almost everyone will at some point reach for a feature that it has, if you have it. So it’s there. And that’s good. And sometimes, it’s not good.

However, one of the strongest benefits of the Elektron machines are that each and every one of them, except the Heat, are complete environments for production, within the realm where they exist. You can make complete albums on just an A4, or a Rytm, or a Digitakt. They’re singular environments in that respect, which is good unless you’re just overcome by everything you can do, and then it’s bad.

If you’re going for an A4 - then go just for the A4, at first. And explore with that. If you’re going for a Digitakt - then stick with that, and only that. Fill it up with samples that you like. And work with those.

More gear, especially at once, won’t accomplish what you want. The right gear, will. You will find that right gear by not going for all of it, at once.

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More boxes may mean buying a mixer …

There’s a lot of options to start a small setup , try s few classic boxes / plugins like sh101 , Juno , 808 , daft punk inspired sample packs … buy 2nd hand gear.

Hi, I have no clue in terms of a mixer of what to go with. I also think that the thought of going just with one elektron piece is good advice. I think I would start wit( the Digitakt to start with then bu8ld from there.

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It’s a perfect starting point. Don’t be surprised if a Digitakt is all you need. Don’t be afraid if it’s not :slight_smile:

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I’m quite surprised exactly about that lately. Questions the rest of my setup

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Could you pick two more different sounding bands? :grinning:

It’s a fair point but I know what that sound is in my head. I guess that’s what important to me which I agree is different.

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I hope you achieve this sound because I’d love to hear it!!