Thanks.
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I have to say that I really like the sound of the ST and It can sound gorgeous if you push I a bit with some sound design knowledge! Even the hats can sound very nice of you use a digital snare as shaker or closed Hihat! Bought the ST because of its sound and not to replace a TR Maschine . For that I have my DT with lots of samples from classic maschines. In my latest video I use the Classic Snare as a shaker/open hat for example.
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ha! i do the same thing. for my previous ones, i just manually tapped them out without a metronome or anything. i dont think its always necessary to show off pattern programming skills or quantizing when illustrating certain sound deign methods
thank you! i appreciate that
these sound really nice. they are ringy and creamy, i see what you mean. you’re making me consider a volca drum, always wanted one
i just found out that the analog “RS CLASSIC” machine has two independently tune-able oscillators with balance control and an individual noise level + tick control, with decay envelope. so analog noise, two analog oscillators, dedicated env, analog transient, analog overdrive, and separate controls for the levels and pitch of each osc. sounds really good to me. have you tried that yet? i agree that it doesnt give you the same type of control over waveforms as the volca drum seems to though
maybe dual vco would be better if you wanted to dial in ring modulated saw waves
i just remembered how much i loved making drum sounds on the a4. prior to the syntakt, that was one of my favorite percussion synthesis tools. you have separate control over the noise with its own filter, envelope, and bit rate, 4 envelopes, and tunable audio rate lfos with am/fm/hard sync/pwm, and even tunable filter feedback which, when routed, could potentially be used as a resonator maybe(?)
i still think you have most of that here, with the syntakt, but you’d need to layer tracks to have that much control
thanks for sharing
wow, i really like these. very nice. you used a digital machine for this?
also, i do the same thing with the digital hat machines with the two filters. i really wish the analog machines had a second b/w filter for taming everything. its a massively useful function for designing drum sounds. i use pretty heavy bandpass in filter 2 on almost everything. but yeah, the analog fx filters are so nice, esp the dual notch that lyingdalai mentioned. i havent figured out a great way to utilize it for individual sound design either, except for just routing a single track to the fx track. it isnt ideal, but it works.
i generally give up on trying to use the fx track for individual tracks though. but the “LS” & “HS” filters on the analog tracks are really cool as well if you want shelves rather than cutting out every frequency below he cutoff while retaining the higher resonance. i have found notch pretty useful for percussive sounds, particularly hats, too. but i only really use those when i have the second filter to further sculpt frequencies with
it sucks that you arent happy with the hat sounds youve gotten from it, but hopefully its still worth holding onto for other reasons for you
*in practice, RS Classic isnt too great for the more tonal hats. it’s hard to close the envelopes for the ringing osc while still making it audible through the noise in the same machine. here, you can hear how it just kind of constantly rings out, despite all 3 envelopes being pretty tightly closed on the decay stage. definitely not as metallic sounding as yours. i think maybe even the RS Hard with the single osc might be better
(ill stop posting hat audio now, maybe 
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(except for this, messin around with Sy Tone FM Hats:
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i especially like the sounds around 1:15, 1:42, 2:30, 3:00, & 4:00. wet hats
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I think these ones sound better than the Volca ones you posted. To me, the Volca hats had a very artificial sound, I guess generated by the waveguide, that sounded like resonances from being inside a tiny box.
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Oh, thank you! I don’t have anything against an artificial sound, as long as it carries those characteristics of real hihats I enjoy. And it’s important how it sounds in a mix (and my music is dense industrial stuff), and those do sound great. By time I’ll make a comparison and then decide if this volca drum will remain in the hihat role or get another role
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Syntakt: 7th Dub of 7th Dub
Tracks: BD modern sound = kick + snare/rim, UT noise HH/shaker, SY Dual VCO Bass, CC Alloy HH, SY Chord, Sy Toy (Xylophone/Glockenspiel).
Bass + UT Noise through FX - the rest clean. Playing with LFO Delay + Filters
4 pattern chain loop, no post processing - Stereo in to Studio One + raise the volume a little before Mp3 mixdown,
Just testing different stuff + trying to see if odd meters are doable without too much hassle.
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After some time with the Syntakt, would you guys say that it lends itself more to a specific style/sound/genre? Or would you say it is very flexible and could produce anything with enough tweaking?
The latter!
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This!
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Hear for yourself:
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You could score a David Lynch or Wim Wenders film with that track. Love the trumpet sounds, too! Got any place to check out more of your music or clips?
I wouldn’t say anything, but so much more than the demos are showing off.
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Hi. Thanks for the great feedback. I’ve been having a long break from making music, so these tracks on elektronauts (I’ve posted 3 different (test)tracks in these forums) are the only ones available at the moment. Hopefully I’ll get more into music production now the upcoming period. I’ll let you know. It’s really nice to hear that you liked the piece - gives inspiration to continue exploring
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I’d say it can do anything out of the box, including the sweet fringes like Noise, Industrial and Ambient.
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It can produce anything. Like most instruments, it depends on the player.
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Is this Syntakt only?
Might have been a bit of Analog Heat on it, can’t remember.
I’ve gotta say after a week with the ST, I’m super impressed. It might be the overall best sounding Elektron I’ve used, and as a self-contained groovebox/workstation it feels the most complete.
I was hesitant about the whole simplified “machines” approach at first, but @AdamJay and others convinced me to give it a go… and even with streamlined parameters there are so many sweetspots to modulate and p-lock that it’s incredibly powerful. Plus the FX track is a serious tool for sound design and adds another level of production to the whole package… just blown away by it.
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