Teenage Engineering TP-7 Tape recorder

Great ideas. How about a BOSS BR-532 for the time TE takes to refine the shiny thingy with the rotating disk?

The Boss can do everything you just proposed. It runs on batteries. And you can have an OP-1 like destructive workflow including limited time. FX are great! (SP-303ish and great guitar amp sim and distortion).

Use whisper (open AI) for offline transcription. Large multilanguage model has amazing accuracy. There are nice GUI wraps for different phone and computer OS.

I have some questions about the TP-7 and its workflow i hope someone can answer:

. Is it possible to create and playback perfect loops on the device?
. Is there any sort of time line or arrangement view so you can play the parts of the tracks you want together?
. Can you duplicate recordings on device and then overdub on them in order to build up parts to further arrange? Or is this something i would use the OP-1F for to record the parts i want from the TP-7, and arrange there.
. Do the 4 Tracks from the OP-1F show up as multi tracks on the TP-7 via USB-C, or is it just a stereo mix that is available when they’re connected.
. Are there any sort of digital Tape Effects available which can be applied in post editing on the TP-7?

That should be enough for now. I’m very curious about this little device and really wonder how flexible it is.

Thanks in advance for the answers and insight.

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In general, if I just read your questions, I don’t think the TP-7 will do what you want right now.

Having said that -
No, it’s not possible to get perfect loops or even loops at all, more than looping playback of entire tracks. If I’m gonna guess, I would guess it’ll get looping at some point with overdubbing, but tight midi loops for say rock solid sequenced layers, I feel is less likely.

No time line arrangement. This also feels less likely. TE doesn’t position this as an arranger and composer, but more collector of ideas or demos.

I’m not sure about duplicating, but you can overdub and it’s very simple and straight-forward. However, with six stereo tracks (potentially, depending on how you connect it), overdubbing isn’t always necessary. You got plenty space to just split up all the tracks and perhaps merge them later into say the OP-1, as you suggest.

No channel streaming from TP-7 to OP-1 or the other way around. This, I feel, is more likely to happen at some point, though, since clearly the TP-7 can channel stream. But only with the TX-6, so far.

No digital tape effects, except playback speed by adjusting the pitch. That. however, is quite granular, much more so than the OP-1, and I really like it. I tend to use it even for subtle playback shifts up and down, to get just a hint of tape-like effect.

Overall, you should look at it like a collector of ideas and demos, and then as the multi-tracker part of the Field system together with the TX-6 mixer.

On paper, it’s nothing special, really, the only thing that makes it stand out in functional terms is the size and battery power (it’s rechargable) and it’s somewhat limited but powerful streaming features, if you got an TX-6.

But most products aren’t their feature list on paper and this is more true for the TP-7 than for most products. The way the workflow is designed, the streamlined process of just capturing and recording stuff, the combination of size and features, makes this into something else. It doesn’t compare to other field recorders or similar.

Ok, so I connected to my Mac and selected TP-7 as my audio output device. I was able to record the sound coming from my Mac.

Another thing I need to figure out is to also record my voice in the room at the same time. I suppose I would need to plug in a mic into one of the jacks. Not sure how this would work with CM-15 as it would need to be connected to TP-7 via the USB too.

Thoughts?

Regarding adding folders - it seems it is only to do this within the “library” folder and not anywhere else. Makes sence actually.

CM-15 has a line out. So you could plug that into the TP-7.

So I’ve been trying to simulaneously record audio from my Macbook and my voice from the internal mic (for a podcast I’m recording on Zoom).

Here’s what I’m doing:

  1. I connected TP-7 (the 1st 3.5mm jack) to the aux on my Macbook
  2. I selected TP-7 as the audio output device on my Macbook
  3. I connected headphones into the main out on TP-7
  4. When I arming the record button, I can hear the audio from my Macbook. I can record it too.
  5. Before starting the recording I can switch to the internal mic and head my voice.
  6. HOWEVER, I can seem to be able to use the internal mic and the aux coming from my Macbook simulaneously.

What am I missing?

I have not been able to get the digital (USB) and analog (line in) to work together for recording. Seems to be one or the other.
I was able to use a Tula mic with line out to line in on the TP-7 and headphone out from Mac to line in on TP-7 at the same time to record both at the same time.

Your last two paragraphs really convinced me that this thing is wack, pure marketing language to distract from an overpriced product with a basic feature set. Most products are absolutely there feature list on paper (seriously what does this mean?? that words cant describe what this thing does?!? lol okay…). Tho I’m happy for anyone who likes that empty wallet mojo

-sent from m2 macbook that i only use for basic shit

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I have had the tp-7 since release. It is the most mediocre TE product I have used of theirs and I have every single product (even the choir!) that they have ever released. It is so basic in functionality that trying to make it seem like it has some special magic that you can only realize once you have it in your hands is odd. There is truly nothing magical about it in its current state. That is all hyperbole and that is coming from a TE fanboy. It might be great for what you need, but I would not steer anyone into buying this thing unless you need a really an expensive voice recorder.
The spinning disc is cool to look at when you first get it, but other than that it does absolutely nothing special. There are no delay effects, tape effects, proper overdub recording, etc. Multitrack recording is limited unless you have a TX-6. It performs zero, absolutely zero, special functions when connecting to the OP-1 field and in fact, other than the TX-6, it doesn’t do anything special with any of the other products they make. This thing needs massive feature updates to have it shine and I do think they can get it to a place where it is awesome, but right now it’s just not there for the price.

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Very polarised opinions that thing unleashes (dunno why I am speaking in Yoda syntax).

The design is really neat and the form factor is even tinier than initially expected.

Only bummer for me is that the transcription app does not work with non M1 Mac - hope they tweak it to enable maximum compatibility. I am thus using whisper and have to manually transfer the audio files, not a big hassle but would love for the workflow to be as neat as the design.

Expensive for it does currently but the little devil feels very lovable.

One question though - thought the memo button on the right is flimsy (as in, it moves a bit in its socket). Do you have noticed that / and or other build issues?

Zero disagreement.
I don’t understand why I’m still so drawn to it.

I’m still convinced by the moleskin notebook paradigm.

Record your beautiful work on a beautiful device.

A school copybook would do just as good a job, but life is short.

A plastic grocery bag can hold essential belongings, but so can Furla.

The real loser is he/she who purchases a TP-7 yet fails to record their life journey into it - be that synths, songs, spoken word or fart noises.

I record guitar and Rhodes into the TP-7 with great reverence. Whereas my Zoom work is very sloppy and disrespectful. :clown_face:
(Though love Zoom, but I bought a little silver box for my special stuff)

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Yeah I feel like they have really set themselves up to make a product that combines the mixer tape and mic as a proper 4track on the go… although I don’t really wanna think of the cost on all that in a single unit.

The new iPhone 15 Pro has a user-assignable “action button” in place of the mute switch. You can assign this to the voice memos app, making it a pretty legit instant field recorder.

It’s not going to have the mic quality of a proper high-end recorder, but it’s hard to argue with such instant convenience. Kind of like how phone cameras beat out purpose-built cameras.

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Yep. For pure function there are many more pragmatic, less pricey/risky options. But as some have discussed, I think that’s largely beside the point for those that like the TP-7.

I really doubt that tp-7 has a significantly better mic than iphone 15; highend ad converter can’t help much for such a small mic with relatively high noise floor in the signal path

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To your point, mate -

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I’m currently exploring working with a daw now, and while I’ve tried that before and always ended up not using one, I’m giving it another go. I’m finding that the TP-7 has an even stronger role in that workflow than in my all hardware pipeline, since recording on the go, collecting ideas, slices, clips and loops anywhere and everywhere, and then just unload whatever’s worth exploring into Luna (which is what I’m trying to learn now), just works really well.

If any TE kit is in danger, should I continue down this path, it’d be the TX-6, which as a mixer for a fellow that’s mostly stationary, doesn’t quite feel as obvious in that context.

The fact that it drops multi-track files into the daw like there’s no tomorrow, certainly helps. I can record entire songs onto TP-7, however crude, and then just flesh them out in Luna.