Teenage Engineering OP-XY

Not if the aim is capturing a perfect loop without having to edit start and end points. Yes, with the hold function, the tape buffer will continue playing, but then you have to press record perfectly in time on the sampling screen and let go perfectly in time. With the method I described above, the start and end points will allow for a perfect loop without any manual adjustment.

Extending the bars only extends the available steps in the sequencer, not the length of the tape buffer. The tape buffer seems to always stay at 16 steps of the project tempo. So yes, slower tempo, longer buffer.

Suspect that Juno was sold out but now has ‘1 in stock’ at RRP…That must be a returns surely??

Just heard back from Teenage Engineering about the little computer chip symbol that flashes in the upper right of the display:

“That’s a cpu indicator: white indicated heavy load, red indicates actual overload (and you might hear notes being killed).”

So basically what we suspected, but now it’s confirmed.

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For recording in-time loops, I’m happy just hitting the record button manually. I have done so much guitar looping that it’s pretty easy—especially as I don’t have to use my foot!

Another trick is to use Loopy Pro on a phone or an iPad. Just hold the track button on the XY to solo that track, and record. Then record back that loop, which should start in sync with the XY.

I’ve mentioned it before, but I’m also using Koala as a sample slicer for the XY. The iPad (mini, in my case) is a perfect companion for the XY.

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I think son-wu is in Japan. Afaik, juno is shipping to only UK and EU.

Or a mpc x…

Sequential sounds so much better though it is not even funny… I could never regret buying anything sequential really, they are instant goosebumps good. As good as behringer are, I never get that same instant feeling from them… it TE for that matter. Not many can play at that level I think, I love buchla, make noise, sequential, moog, random source, etc. they are all different but gawd…

I returned mine to Juno - dead pixel on the screen :slightly_frowning_face:

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I don’t argue with that. My point was that you pay the premium for the Sequential sound if you buy one of their synths. You won’t expect a crazy powerful sequencer with innovative performance features and complain about it lacking. Just like you buy an XY for exactly these features and not because it sounds like the richest analog poly synth. Yet people complain about it not sounding like that or not having knobs like other expensive synths etc. My point was that it makes more sense to judge the price point/value proposition based on what the instrument offers as its core feature and not something else. At least until we get a powerful groovebox with the sound and knobs of something like a Sequential :wink:.

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This :point_up_2:

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I enjoy the sequencer, sampler, and master saturation/compressor algorithms most about the OP-XY. I think comparing the OP-XY to “Sequential sounds” is dumb. How can an analog polysynth sound better than a Hip-Hop beat with no synth sounds created on an OP-XY? Some people don’t give a shit about analog synths.

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So using Loopy you can get samples that start and end in time with the steps? I’m guessing you have these synced via midi and Loopy awaits the next bar before capturing?

It would be nice if the device could just do this itself but using it w an iPad makes sense anyway

Yes I think it is a pretty great sequencer as long as you want to work in the four bar step sequencer paradigm.

I was responding to a post comparing them… I didn’t compare them…

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LOL!!! You missed the gist of my post. But it’s OK. Still, never underestimate anyone. Some smaller outfits have trumped the bigger boys and the story is, which is what TE did over Roland, Akai, etc with the XY.

XY is very future driven incredible device, but it is still basically a toy compared to machine, push, mpc, fantom, etc… I know many here love this stuff but for a lot of people a machine that can play itself is not that crazy no matter how awesome they make it seem… at basically everything else it is a joke compared to them, eight tracks, basically toy level sampling features, note editing, music production features like stems, mixers, effects, basically all the real actually useful stuff for music production… this is a great instrument, it is not a full workstation though, not even close… it is cool if you say you don’t need that stuff… those that do though this is no substitute…
I know you can use a daw, not really the point though, XY is not a daw and others can actually compete in that field standalone though…

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It’s amusing how in some people’s minds, all these synths, drum machines, and VSTs are “battling” and “competing” with each other.

In my universe, they all enjoy each other’s company.

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I think this is really the point though, to me at least. If I want DAW functionality, I use a DAW. A crippled DAW in a box, like the MPCs and the other examples you mentioned are just that, almost-DAWs with restricted functionality in a different case and user interface that is not a computer or laptop. It’s fine if you’re into that kind of thing, everyone is different.
And like you said, OP-XY is not aimed at trying to be that. It’s designed to make music production as fun and straight forward as possible and strips away or smoothens many of the cumbersome aspects of making music in a DAW or on a “serious workstation”. That’s the way I see it, at least. And I totally agree, it’s an instrument. You play it and music comes out.

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If the XY is basically a toy yet, at the same time, a very future driven incredible device, does that make Machine, Push, MPC and Fantom very VERY future driven incredible devices? Like twice “very?” Or maybe just one “very” with “doubly” thrown in? LIke, Machine, Push, MPC, Fantom are very future driven doubly-incredible devices? Tell me more, I’m fascinated by your passion.

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I’ve liked playing with toys since I was a little kid, it’s fun.

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