Teenage Engineering EP-133 K.O. II

The idea that only bottom units had faults doesn’t make sense.

Say there is 8-10 stacked high surely if bottom one is faulty the next and possibly the one after could potentially have faults. It’s not like when you get to the last unit weight is quadrupled. Either it’s badly packaged and the fader is prone to break under pressure or not.

Lots of people reported it breaking when putting on the cap. This isn’t user error but bad design. If you are expected to put something together it should withstand mild pressure. Pictures of people having to hold it with pliers was ridiculous especially given the Lego aesthetic it’s going for. I never had a Lego set that needed held with pliers through fear of breaking.

Should just manufacture them with the fader cap on. User installation was a silly idea if the fader is fragile because I’ve replaced caps on tons of faders and none have broke due to pushing the cap down

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Tip for getting precise velocity control

Something I ran into by accident yesterday. As you most likely know, you can change the velocity sensitivity of the pads by doing:

  1. SHIFT + ERASE
  2. Select PAD using +/-, then ENTER
  3. Select VEL using +/-, then ENTER
  4. Select OFF, HI, LOW (depending on your needs)

Another way to do this is:

  1. SHIFT + ERASE
  2. Enter code
    2.1. 300 => Velocity OFF
    2.2. 301 => Velocity High
    2.3 302 => Velocity Low
  3. Hit ENTER

A full reference of system settings codes can be found here EP–133 guide: system

That being said, there’s another thing you can do:

Go to velocity settings as per steps 1) and 2) mentioned above.
Now you can use the fader to set the velocity level explicitly.

This is useful if you want to program, say hihats with a repeating velocity pattern and you want to ensure the velocity pattern isn’t arbitrary (by using pressure sensitive pads).

Only downside I see with this is that you have to go back and forth between velocity settings and sequencer to record your hihats at the respective velocities.

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This was paranoia from it breaking. My bet is if they put the fader on normally it wouldn’t have broken on their units either, pliers had nothing to do with it. The faulty units were faulty regardless of how the cap was installed. Those faders were probably going to break regardless.

I installed mine how it was instructed to install and many others have done the same and the fader works fine. There’s obviously a problem here but it’s really just a problem with the faders clearly being broken already. Even if it appeared to work and then putting the knob on broke it, that was a result of a faulty fader not the installation.

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Yes I agree but the fact a product fuels such paranoia is what I’m referring to as the ridiculousness of it and I agree that the faders must have been dodgy to start with, not just because of packaging

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Brilliantl!

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What I meant was that 11 ratings is not a statistically representative sample for the hundreds(?) of EP-133 that Thomann has sold. Furthermore, the sample is not random - unhappy customers are far more likely to leave a rating. What we can reliably conclude from the Thomann ratings is that Thomann’s batch was also affected by the fader gate.

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I got mine after two days

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nice one, might get mine today so :slight_smile:

But that is true for every product. It proves that the Digitakt had less defects/problems judging by the ratings, albeit sold at much higher numbers than the KO II.

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Responding to my own rant, I just got shipping notification from TE. :zonked:
I guess I just have to order it quicker next time :slight_smile:

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Aaaaannd so painfully predictably, UPS have bumped my delivery date again from today to Monday.

At this point I expect they’ve just lost it as it (the tracking) seems to be bouncing around between three different UPS facilities like a fucking pinball.

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Happy to report that everything works on my K.O. II!

Was a bit scared since I’m in Australia and it’s a long ass trip to get it here, but I ordered direct from Teenage Engineering and it was packaged pretty well. Hopefully, it will work in the future too.

From the short time playing with it, I really like it! The sound, the aesthetics and the UX. It’s a winner!

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I’m not so sure the Digitakt sold higher numbers at launch. This thing has a much lower price point, been manufactured for 5-6 months, a mass amount of parts ordered during the pandemic and still sold out in 24 hours.

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Bit sad they failed on the quality because otherwise i think mine is awesome, think will keep it even the speaker dont work, just hope not more things break over time…

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re sample & memory management:
If you want the same sample on different pads with different start/end points, would that be possible with a single sample and referenced doubles (= no extra memory) or would you have to have actual duplicates loaded?

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Yep you can , chop methode use the same method than a copy pad. When you copy a pad you have the same sample number and you can put another settings env etc …) and you can play with each in keymode .

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Received mine. Overall the build quality is excellent, heavier than I thought and the keys are great quality. My fader arrived broken so I will send it back to TE for a replacement. Does anyone who ordered from TE know how long it takes for a response?

Thanks

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ages :joy:

thanks, that’s top!
So looking forward to christmas this year!
:wink::nerd_face:

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Well, Digitakt’s relative reliability is also evident from this forum :slight_smile: Still, we can’t tell from Thomann ratings how many of the EP-133s they’ve sold are faulty.