Agree 100%
I’m under no false pretences that my hope for unbiased facts on the internet is futile as fuck lol
But sometimes it’s worth a shot to nudge the ship in a different direction to test the futility, even if it’s just for a few posts lol
But it’s probably best for me to bow out of the thread for now, since I won’t buy from this first batch anyway. I’ll just wait until the next batch hits the shelves… with the addition of portamento 
Oh yes, that’s a good idea! Thank you!
Actually now it came to my mind - I own already one 
Bought it 2-3 years ago, mainly because it looks so cool - it reminds me of Braun / Dieter Rams / and in the end Teenage Engineering Design…
bravo 3 years ago ooli! incredible foresight!
Hehe, my subconsciousness seems to know more than me…
Another DIY-Sampler is this here, but I think it‘s also a bit too expensive (over 100 euros) and has too much functions for the EP-133 resampling usecase. But it‘s impressive to see, what they‘ve built in.
Oh it totally is, if it could sample. Maybe not same level of functions etc but for a quick, moderate sampler, if you haven’t used one is it extremely simple but equally effective. For 300 it has it’s perks but so far other than nostalgia it doesn’t seem like it’s as easy to master, but it has a lot of features.
But for 100, if it could sample I’d have a volca and just record into my ot from it. The usb on the 2 makes me think of it, but it is just pure and not a circuit board like the original K.O.
i have a volca sample. what do you mean by if it could sample? you mean resample? the ep-133 has dozens and dozens of features over the volca. but that’s intended. the volca was never meant to have anything but a small contained design. to me it’s like comparing the feature set of the ep-133 to the 404mk2. it is a similar difference in scope. the only thing volca has above ep-133 is step automation for most controls. but that is its big major feature that makes it so sweet. of course the volca sample is great but they really aren’t comparable regarding features.
And what do you think about a Mini-looper like this? 58 bucks, mono in, mono out (I guess). You can overdub in layers. And via usb you can transfer it to a computer, but that’s not necessary for the resampling-workflow with EP-133.
I actually have that same one (lekato) which I use for guitar, the recording gate doesn’t catch the beginning of a recording as closely as I would like but otherwise, for the price, it’s a great looper. If it came down to something where I could press a button to coordinate recording start manually vs a footswitch I’d choose a normal button. Although, the digitech jamman express xt looper has a unique operation, where instead of starting recording on the depression of the switch, it starts recording when you release your foot on the upstroke.
Not relevant here, but can also be synced with other jamman express pedals.
I’m REALLY into music that loops and loops for all eternity. I love a track that takes an odd 2 or 4 beat loop and turns it into 7 minutes with lots of rhythmic fun going on underneath it. It can be surprisingly difficult to create something like this that is interesting and not grating. Check out The Field for what is, to me, the ultimate form of this kind of house music, but also a lot of DJ Sneak is in this specific niche that I love.
On this device when you loop it does some really neat stuff. If I engage the loop on an off beat, the KOII will include parts of the audio that cut off and truncate in some really interesting ways. Basically it’s a happy accident loop machine from hell because I can create a track, loop it, and them scan through the loops with the + and - keys and find some really fascinating (to me) stuff unlike any device I’ve ever owned before. I’ve been capturing those and then running them through a slowly modulating low pass filter for loop heaven on top of my drum tracks.
I have the jamman express and love it!!
Sorry if this has been mentioned before (this thread has a bonkers amount of activity), but I didn’t see find in the manual how many scenes per project? Liam Killen’s video said 8, is that true?
Each project can have up to 99 scenes.
99 scenes per project. 9 Projects total.
His video also said you can’t change the sample assignment to a pad in a given project. My understanding was that you could change that per scene. Am I mistaken?
The state of the pads is shared across all scenes.
Got it, so scenes only let you change sequencer data? And does that include fader automations?
by state do you mean the sound assigned to that pad?
Scenes only store the pattern numbers of the groups (e.g., A01, B02, C01…). They do not seem to retain any other information, such as mute status or fader levels. Automations are recorded in a pattern.
Yes. If you tweak the kick sound on a certain pad, it will be reflected in all scenes/patterns.
I requested that my order be cancelled (direct from TE). But they just shipped the order ?
See what lottery I receive.
I guess they are to busy dealing with returns to get to my request.
Edit: Arrived in working order. 