Take 5 vs Teo 5

The keybed is channel aftertouch, not poly. Sounds great though!

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@operon going ā€žFuck, my Take 5 doesn’t have Poly AT, what did I doā€œ for a second :nerd_face:.

Hope you enjoy your Take 5!

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Great vid, sounds incredible :fire:

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any previous take-5 owners who bought the teo-5 have any opinions at this stage? we have a lot more analog poly options now, but i still go back to my old ig posts from when i had the take-5 and those are always my favorite ones. everything that machine does just sounds so massive and beautiful to me. it has such an interesting character. very alive

but the teo-5 seems like a no brainer. tzfm in a poly synth is what ive always wanted, and especially inside something with the modulation power of the take-5. I think id prefer the svf, but i did really like the take-5 filter. I tend to use bp more than lpf or hpf, so i think i’d like the flexibility offered by a svf. one concern i would have is that it doesnt have the morphing vco shapes of the take-5 which was one of the most powerful sound design functions, combined with the fm and oscillator sync, you could get the crazies textures and still keep it musically in tune if you used the mod matrix for linear fm

i’d be curious to know whether or not the teo-5 is as satisfying in terms of deep sound design from someone who tends to spend a lot of time pushing these analog polysynths to their limits in the mod matrix. because fm did seem like kind of a workaround, but it was also very malleable in that you could audio rate modulate almost anything with the osc2 as mod source in the matrix. does the teo-5 have the same sources and destinations (filter out, dc, osc2 source, etc)?

they both sound great. i assume the teo is worth a shot, but i know i love the take-5. tough decision

Don’t wanna be the guy who answers ā€œshould I get A or Bā€ with ā€œget Cā€, but here we go: you should take a look at Dreadbox Artemis if you want an analog poly with through zero FM and variable waveforms with in between states and two resonant filters (HP + LP).

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That’s my plan.

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Replacing Take 5 with Artemis?

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That’s the plan.

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I have both. Both from the beginning when they came out, which means I had the Take 5 for about 3 years before the Teo-5 came out. The Take 5 was my main (and only) synth for those three years, replacing a Rev2 I had for about 5 years (which replaced a P08, etc…). Although I always loved the Take 5, it has been gathering dust since the Teo-5 arrived. I will sell it eventually, although I will miss some of the patches I made that were really nice. The Teo-5 is perfect for me. Perfect balance between beautiful and powerful sound, between characterful and controlled. It’s exactly the sound I’ve been looking for for years (and which I couldn’t find on the Rev2 or Take5, the P08 was closer…). So that’s my 2 cents. But this matter is highly subjective, you really have to get to know both synths in person, program some patches and see how you connect with the sound. The user interface of both synths is almost identical (and for me one of the best interfaces I’ve ever come across).
If I had to put it into words, I find the Take 5 to be a bit more raw and ā€œplasticā€, while the Teo-5 is more textured, nuanced, and refined (however, on a subtle level). Both synths can sound very similar at times though.
I’m probably confusing you more than anything :smiley:

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This is actually a great idea. I had considered it, but I hate that interface. Better than the nymphes though. I just doubt the mod matrix is as capable, I could be totally wrong but everything about the t5 sort of just felt right to me so I know I like that format

It does sound incredible though in that Andertons demo. I keep forgetting it has Tzfm as well. I wonder if the filters on the Dreadbox compare to the teo 5 filter. I did like the Medusa a lot, but it was one of my very first synths so it’s hard to say whether or not I would like that interface now

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Not at all, this actually sealed the deal for me. I feel like we value similar things here, and the way you describe it pretty much answers my questions

Thank you, I appreciate that response

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I want one of these two sweet synths to make techno, dub techno, and ambient. Is there a better choice for these genres?

+1 for TEO-5 for ambient

I’m sure both have the same level of flexibility but the SEM filter is really fun to sweep through in different ways while making drones and things. The built in reverb is also fantastic (its probably the same for both).

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TEO all day.

I spent the day at GC while getting my car serviced and they had a Moog Moose, Polybrute 12, TEO and a bunch of other cool synths.

I made my rounds but ended up spending by far the most time with the TEO. It was just a wonderful synth.

Fast forward a couple months, and I figure I’ll buy… The Take 5, because of my affinity for prophets. Well it just didn’t feel like any of the prophets I’ve owned (rev 2 / prophet 6.) - I was kind of plagued by the comparison so maybe that won’t bother you. I didn’t expect it to be as good or ā€œthe same,ā€ but it just didn’t even feel in the same ballpark regarding the kind of fizzy brass I like to get from prophets.

It just sounded burnt and dark. I tried the usual tricks of adjusting the vca / osc volumes and making sure filter was open in my own personal init patch, making sure some resonabce was on. Nope not just felt like it was low passed. Like a subtle tape emulation all of the time. Murky.

Returned it and got the TEO I should have. The fizz was back and now it’s my favorite synth. Even over my previous Prophets.

Teo has way better envelopes than the T5 for some reason. They are both digital but I heard the TEO are meant to emulate OB more. Well they have such a good snap for bass and the attack / decay range has so much more usability early on. This is also the first synth I really enjoy using amp attack on. The curve just feels and sounds better.

This is going to sound crazy, be the TEO can feel downright moogy on bass to me because of this. There’s a certain THWAP you can get with that barely audible attack and a nice snappy decay.

TZFM is fucking rad. The filters are fabulous. And for my setup, the keyboard version is the perfect size with the split mode offering the best solution I’ve ever seen for how I actually use a 5 octave keyed. It’s great as a midi keyboard because of this too.

I find it the perfect joining of wonderful sound and wonderful features. No compramise other than 5 voices in my view.

E: I might have sounded a little harsh on T5. Honestly this is just a testament to how different the two synths are while sharing a whole lot.

I don’t think you can go wrong with most of the synths on the market, T5 included.

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No experience with the Teo 5 but the Take 5 is very bright, not sure what the previous comment is about. It also has mixer controls on the front panel for oscillator 1 and 2, as opposed to being hidden in the menu, and it has the extra drive control. The filter is less flexible but there is also a high pass filter in one of the effects slots, so I’ve never felt like it’s sonically limited. In fact I’d say it’s one of the best synths I’ve ever played. I also prefer the aesthetics of it to the Teo. Forgot to mention, the Take 5 has an all analog signal path before the effect slots compared to the Teo 5. Full VCAs on this bad girl. Great for dub techno for sure.

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I would also add that Fourm is a very good synth, that has that Prophet 5 dna inside :slight_smile: and the keybed is very nice

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Not that it makes any difference, but take 5 and teo 5 have the same architecture, that is, analog signal path up to the vcf. Then there is digital conversion. Vca on take 5 and teo 5 are digital.

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I really like the look/sound of the Fourm. I already have a Toriaz AS-1 so the Prophet sound is in my arsenal. I’m thinking Teo-5 module and eventually Fourm.

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Honestly if anything I have sometimes found the T5 a bit too bright and fizzy with the filter fully open, I almost always close it just a little bit. But that’s probably a stylistic and aesthetic preference.

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