Syntakt II speculations

Does anyone have any solid numbers how well the syntakt is doing in sales compared to digitakt and digitone lineups?

Plot twist - they will release Rym Mk3 with added digital machines and other goodies and discontinue Syntakt for good.

Ahah, I never said that the ST II will never happen, but one thing is certain: it won’t be anytime soon. We also have to consider the lifespan of previous products, which have been supported for many years. These are the only tangible facts we can rely on at the moment, in my opinion. I hope the next update will be a major improvement, proving that the ST II isn’t coming anytime soon

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Only time will tell for certain :slight_smile:

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Did DT2 and DN2 see trademark filings?
I think for appending a ā€œIIā€ to the product name perhaps it’s not required ?

It’s really the only good reason I’d want a Syntakt II. I’m really happy with what it can do now and appreciate that Elektron are still updating its OS to bring it a bit closer to the II’s. But there’s some differences that are confusing for muscle memory, especially the different placements of mute mode. And I think muscle memory is quite important for having fun with Elektrons. Having the added trig conditions, FX and (performance) kits would also be neat.

I wouldn’t say that’s good enough a reason for Elektron to release an updated Syntakt and for me to buy it. If they decided to give it more analog voices that can be used on trigs 13-16 and throw in an analog compressor on top, that would be really tempting. But I doubt they could fit these in the box without the Syntakt exploding from heat. Maybe the Tonverk case could host these?

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I haven’t studied law in any way, but yeah, it seems in some cases you don’t have to do it from scratch, as you do often already enjoy some protection from the previous trademark, unless the successor is significantly different. But this obviously varies between legal systems as well.

Yes, it’s not necessary. You can see that the trademark filings for the DT and DN were updated a few months before their release

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A Syntakt II right now would be a huge own-goal in terms of customer relations, non?

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A Syntakt II Makes More Sense Than A Killer Syntakt FW Update (?) - #173 by mishpult Confirmation that there won’t be a Syntakt II anytime soon, and that the Syntakt will keep improving

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Syntakt 2 is inevitable.

And is going to be a terrific machine:

8 Analog + 8 Digital/or/Sample based machines + Analog FX track

plus all other 2 regulars:
-comb, selective ctrlALL, compressor, etc…

source: my instinct.

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It’s more likely that ST successor will likely come in the Tonverk format to accommodate 8 analog tracks without too many technical limitations.

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No need to worry, this won’t be an issue for some time - this topic has officially outstayed its welcome and will only add to the confusion (along with the other topic clouding such a question)

Enjoy your Syntakts, fear not, they’re here for a while to come

The what's next for Elektron is the future speculations topic for gear updates

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I noticed the Syntakt is on sale for $250 off at Sweetwater.

Does anyone remember a year ago, before the DT2 and DN2 came out were retailers blowing out inventory on sale?

I’m thinking of getting one, but if they’re getting ready to release the next version, I’m gonna not spend over $1000 on it now and I will wait. If this is how they usually do releases and blow out old inventory then I’m guessing that’s what’s happening, but maybe it’s just a sale.

Wasnt the last definitive statement from Elektron that the update proofed that they see the DN2, DT2 and ST on par as their latest digis which will have a lot of support for a long time?!

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Posted by Elektron in Syntakt 1.40 thread:

We also wanted to dispel any lingering rumours: there are no plans for a Syntakt II. Digitakt II, Digitone II, and Syntakt stand as the Digi Trilogy as we see it. Syntakt continues to grow, and OS 1.40 is its next step forward.

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Thank you! Exactly the news I was looking for.

Thank you!