Sync with ableton live (no overbridge)

Hello,
I can’t manage to sync properly A4 to ableton live.
I used the tutorial on the forum (don’t remember the topic, i put the instructions I copied below)

  1. The main problem is that if I don’t put program changes on every 4 bars, the A4 when it changes Patterns don’t start from the beginning but for example from page 4 instead of page 1…
    example: i put a program change in A1 on bar 37 in Ableton, then if I put a program change in A2 on bar 40 instead of bar 41, the pattern of A2 begin from page 4 instead of page 1.
    I tried to change in MIDI CONFIG - multi map edit - the change mode (D.start, d. jump, seq) but nothing changed…
    I also tried to put a length page very small (for example pattern A1 is 2/16 instead of 64/64), but the problem is the same…
    I also tried to use delay compensation in LIVE but nothing changed…

  2. Another problem is that sometimes when there is the program change the A4 plays a note (but in this patterns there aren’t any sequences/notes recorded). What can be?

Thank you in advance…

Here’s the instructions I followed:
PROGRAM CHANGE ABLETON LIVE ELECTRON ANALOG 4

Hi dear Elektronauts,
after frustrating period of trying to find the way how to change patterns in A4 via Ableton I finally did find the way and one definitive set up which works perfectly.
So… here it is
setting up A4:
Midi config:
-midi sync - enable- clock receive,transport receive,prog ch receive
-midi port config. -out port func - midi, thru port func - midi, input from - usb/midi (depends on type of connection you use),the same for output to, output ch - trk ch (this cause that you can send from ableton midi notes to each of A4’s track (in Ableton you will have separate channel for each A4’s track - see in Ableton set up later in this post), param output - nrpn, encoder dest - int+ext, keyboard dest - int+ext, mute dest - int+ext, enable all three other possibilities bellow mute dest

  • midi channels - tr1 -1,etc. ,perf channel - 8, auto channel - 9, prog ch in - 8, prog ch out - auto
  • multi map edit - clear all entries and create one, C0 - G10, and set it up this way: function - pat.play,range low - c0, range high - G10, pattern A01, pattern inc 1, transpose 0, transpose inc 0, chg mode - d.Jump
    that is all in A4
    and now how to set up Ableton
    in Preferences - midi set up - input - enable Analog 4 track in, in section midi outpu enable Analog 4 track in and sync
    in session view create five midi tracks and one audio track
    route each track like this: midi input - no input, midi output - to Analog 4, channel - 1 for track 1, 2 for track 2, etc and for the fifth midi track choose: midi input - no input, midi output - to Analog 4,channel - 8 (this track in ableton will be changing patterns in A4 via clips - see bellow
    Name first four tracks in Ableton like A4 - T1, A4- T2, etc and the fifth midi track name Program change.
    the last track you did create is audio track and rout it like this: audio from - choose the ext (i suppose you use external sound card to which is connected your A4) and channels to which is connected your A4, then choose Monitoring - IN and audio out to - master
    now everything is set up correctly,so it works in this logic
    if you create blank midi clip in ableton’s track number 5 (we named it prog change) and create a note - (-C2) (yes i don’t know why but -C2 is C0 in A4), switch off the loop button in section notes down in the clips setting and now if you start playing live, you A4 starts play in sync (sync delay you set up in preferences of ableton) and any time you launch the clip from track 5, the pattern in A4 is changed according the note which is in the clip, so the clip with note -C#2 the pattern in A4 will change to patternA02, note -D2 will change A4 pattern to A03 etc.
    in other tracks which every represent the track in A4 you can freedomly create midi clips which will be triggering A4’s tracks sounds
    if you use triggless parameter changing,you can change parameters through sequencer possibilities of A4
    that is all
    enjoy it"
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