I don’t think of them as sequencers, I think of them as drum machines which is exactly what they are. They both have significant one-shot drum-oriented sample playback and pattern sequencing. They’re drum machines.
I appreciate the point you’re making but it just feels odd to have those more advanced sequencing features but skip on the basics like having patterns.
Anyway I don’t want to derail the bargains thread any more! Be interesting to see how these two evolve.
This is the best thing on sale in the drum department and frankly speaking all your patterns belong to us 
if you love Patterning buy this now and thank me later
I’m using Atlas and though I love it I do see it as a limitation.
I’m taking the approach of building the patterns in Atlas and then dropping them into Bitwig MIDI clips.
It would be a good thing for them to fix in a subsequent version though.
I really like this for making patterns, but this is missing the kit-building or the AI of the other two mentioned (or sononym). There’s no 1-stop-shop, it seems… I’m slowly coming from HW to SW, but I’m suprised at how expensive the SW route is…
yeah there’s no one stop shop but beat scholar is incredible and they’re just getting started
Beat Scholar looks really cool, love step segment drum sequencers!
Syntakt, Digitakt etc. work in the same way? A pattern there equals a preset in XO?
Disagree. XO sequencer is pretty limited for me.
Frankly I´m not sure what to think about those updated version. The M/S stuff, easily possible in the DAW with freeware MS Matrix plugins (Save as rack, preset or whatever your DAW offers). The other added features, maybe I´d like them, maybe I wouldn´t really use the much…Idk, both work pretty well in their standard variants.
How do you like the stuff you bought? I bought Knifonium some time ago, because I had to choose one more plugin for the discount, but never really used it…It sounds interesting, tho!
Both are limited as sequencers, they’re great as idea generators… but when things get serious off to proper sequences we go.
You are probably right, might just get the standard versions. Can imagine there will be more good sales (or used). I can admit that it was equally about trying to get a “good” deal…
Haven’t had the chance to try them yet, just listened to the Knifonium demos and thought it sounded gorgeous. The Lisa EQ will be a time consuming project, and I’m trying to learn the whole mastering thing… Might get back to you in half a year or something 
I have few plugs from united plugins and I like them, I think this one is not exception.
Like for most of the plugins, I only buy when they are super discounted.
With this coupon you should have a 20% discount and I earn 10%, then if you share your coupon I got the 20% and you earn 10%, win win: UP0366165
Apparently it’s 39 more hours now… 
You can demo all of the PA plugins for 14 days, in case you or others weren’t aware.
Especially with saturation and compressors, it usually takes some time for me until I figured the sweetspots out.
If you can’t decide…Not too long until they’ll have them on sale again. 
You can try all our products for 14 days, FREE of charge. Simply create and login to your account, then use our PA Installation Manager to download & activate what you want to test.
Edit: cheapest price I’ve seen if you already have any paid Izotope product is £70 from Thomann iZotope Ozone 10 Standard Crossgrade – Thomann UK
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NI are selling Izotope Ozone 10 Standard for £108 with code OZN2023.
Kinda tempted, I don’t really know what I’m doing with mastering and in the past have just stuck on Ozone Elements auto mode or bx_masterdesk… is Ozone a good choice to go for? I’ve read mixed things (as with anything online!) but seems generally quite a good option?
I have Ozone 9 or 10 and not tried 11, but I prefer the bx_masterdesk!
You’ll be fine with ozone. If it doesn’t work with ozone then ozone is not the problem
I just tried out the demo on a couple of things I’ve been playing around with and I’m pretty impressed with it in terms of “one click” mastering. The results sound better to my ear than bx_masterdesk I’d say (sadly my good headphones are away being mended so I only have HD-25 to check on) and with the AI assistant thing it requires minimal work.
The Audiolens plugin is pretty cool too, I grabbed it when it was being given away for free – you can capture any song’s “profile” (it intercepts your system audio so you can just play off Spotify etc) and use it as a target in Ozone. Does seem to pick up the different characteristics of tracks sounds quite nicely, e.g. muffled vs. in your face etc.
Ozone generally does a good job using the automated procedure. The problem is you will have a hard time to make modifications to the results. Meaning if you are able to make modifications you are probably able to do your settings from the start.
Izotope products are generally very good.
Consider they update at least once a year and the update is not free, it will probably cost like the same price you payed for the initial purchase
Personally I don’t like Izotope UI and their upgrade policy, I stopped upgrading few years ago.