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putting in the work and understanding FM is totally worth it, you don’t need DN2 for this…
all DN1 except the pad in the background (via OT sliced chain loops).
still totally in love with this device.
thats dope!
With two OG DN I’m really flexibil. One for Drums, one for for Tonal stuff…4 inputs 4 outputs…lot’s off power for 700-800 Euro pretty tempting…
this was my first thought, I can’t see myself deep diving into menus THAT MUCH.
there’s bunch of other settings that looks a bit wwway to much to handle for me, I prefer the fx as is not in a single page, and if I’m honest I don’t see myself extending to 128 steps ever, it would be 100% a thing I would never utilize. as with 16 tracks. it’s just too much.
and I’ve said it elsewhere, but honestly I didn’t hear sounds that I didn’t hear coming out from DN1…
the DN2 looks like a great update, and if I didn’t have the DN I would definitely consider, I think the price is very fair all things considered, but I’m not going to sell mine
I’m rather in the OG camp, but the comb filter on DN2, though…
For live performances I see two OG even better…faster control of parameters…individual effects settings on reverb and delay specially…I think they missed to invent a new user-interface for that amount of parameters…I will wait for a real new machine.
oh yeah the Comb± and BRR/SRR is the camp of new possibilities for sure, and with the BW filter pre-post you can also tame the sounds, but that’s not enough for me to upgrade though
if it had analog filters… I would be tempted for real…
Digitone is a focused instrument, designed from the ground up as an FM synthesizer in conception and realization. Digitone II is absolutely more groovebox now and FM is no longer the focus. There are going to be different kinds of users.
If you were sold on the original because of the FM capabilities, then little has changed in Digitone II on that front. I am not talking about filters and FX, I am talking about core FM sound design. Many of the asks over the years like additional algorithms or a 6 operator mode are not realized here, and I think it is unlikely there will be another (new) FM machine.
If you take yourself back to when the Digitone launched, think about how everything it presented at the time in the form of its parameters was brand new and not seen before in an Elektron instrument. Disappointing are single page machines. In fact, this is a large part of what has always made Digitone stand out from something like Syntakt. That deep dive, multi-page SYN config for the underlying tone. When you take the opportunity to port something, like SY SWARM from Syntakt, it’s a little disappointing to see it ported as largely the same. They removed DECAY & OVERDRIVE from it (because they aren’t needed on the SYN page), and added MAIN WAVEFORM & SWARM WAVEFORM. But if you are making something that expands, something that re-imagines, it’s not in that machine. I would have liked a second page where things like the density of the swarm could be adjusted if I wanted less or more than 6 swarm oscillators. If it’s going to be more machines and not just FM focus, then I hope for expanded, less conservative ports of existing machines in the future.
Comparatively, there are some new parameters in the WaveTone that have never been seen before, and others that, tonally, are already achievable on other Elektron devices. If someone pays close attention they know what I mean. This machine is a good example of how the standard should be set for future machines.
That being said, things like lack of MIDI retrigs, MIDI arp are still disappointing, but there honestly isn’t any aspect of Digitone you can say that Digitone II doesn’t do better. For its price, it is highly competitive and has no rivals. It’s just not going to be an immediate upgrade for everyone depending on what kind of user you are. And if you don’t have a Digitone yet, this one is a must have.
I already have FM drum machine(s) on my M: cycles to combine with my DN1, so im good for now 🥲
That being said, i could probably get like 700e if I sold these to fund the new one.
This is what I have to remind myself pretty regularly. I’ve tried various additions to ST to give myself more polyphony, more tonal options, etc, but generally I’ve been most productive when I used one or two devices at a time. I ended up buying a DT1 for cheap after the sequel came out, because there are some things that you can only really do with a sampler… but I’ve come to realize it only comes in handy sometimes, and the rest of the time it doesn’t gel with the way I work. I do expect I may end up selling it after not using it very much
I guess my thinking is that on Elektron boxes with sound locks, polyphony and track count are only meaningful if you’re often reaching the limit. For me, I rarely ever use all of the tracks on my Syntakt to make a complete song. If I end up getting a DN, although many of the DN2 features look really cool, I don’t think I’d use enough of it to justify $1k versus (currently) $400.
As I said in another thread, I’m gonna be focused on Syntakt and A4 for a long time now. But I’m happy DN used prices are so low amazing device for that price
You gotta do something about that. I don’t know what, but you gotta do something.
and 3 LFOs per track
Im sticking with the OG. It does exactly what I want it do and has the perfect amount of feature density to me. It’s a perfect companion to the ST & OT as is imo
Same reason for me. Having a Syntakt and OG Digitone is just the right amount of features for an amateur musician like me, and not to get lost in too many settings and features. Although the DNII is an excellent stand alone FM groovebox, having two 16 track grooveboxes next to each other is just a bit too much for me to handle…. …right now .
In my use case I have zero interest for Digitone II. I use my Digitone Keys as an FM synth and midi sequencer for a limited number of external devices and the workflow is just fine. I just wish it had midi arp, but Digitone II does not improve in that area. I’ll be more interested to invest in a Hydrasynth desktop or even in the new Korg Multy/Poly for that kind of money.
Regarding LFO‘s:with two OG‘s you super modular in terms of MIDI routing…
I got rid of my Analog Four MKII for this reason. It’s a fantastic machine but I just didn’t
have enough brain to use it next to all the other stuff.
Let’s not start the list…
Let’s use this thread mainly for good reasons to keep the OG DN. At least that’s been my original intention…
The Digitone imo is a really nice distillation of what FM can do and be. The addition of different waveforms and the filters are the cherry on top. It’s a very complete synth package already. It’s easy enough to wrap your head around, but deep enough to go ham as well.
The II adds a whole lot to that making it a more complete ‘fm groovebox’ if you will, but the essence of the OG is enough for me.