oh right. um, fuck knows
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Damn. Was hoping that was my killer reason to keep the original!
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It’s been a while since I wrote that…
Compromises in the sense of machines limiting access to parameters by combining them into macro-controls. I think I’m coming from a traditional synthesis perspective where all can be accessed equally.
But… afaik FM Tone in DN2 is an exact clone of the OG. Plus various nice additional machines that are very very capable.
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hey thanks for replying. I’m torn…
One of the things I love about Digitone and the reason I bought one, is that I’m interested in making music from the ground up. Bare bones synthesis and being creative with those starting blocks. I want the starting blocks to be as simple as possible.
Are you saying that the Digitone 2 has all the same detail, depth and control as the original but more? Or does the original have any edge over the Digitone2, in terms of sound sculpting and depth?
thanks
yes
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well that’s that then! lol
As someone who barely scratched the surface of the original, I’d be mad to move onto the DN2, as much as I want one. I’m more inclined to add to my setup rather than replace.
But where the hell do I find a euclidean hardware sequencer!? (I’m DAWless)
Eurorack ha ha ha ha!
I think Oxi One has a Euclidean sequencer. There are probably other examples as well.
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From the top of my head I know the Squarp Hapax and Pyramid, and the Oxi One have Euclidean mode.
Torso T1
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Syntakt has Euklid. Actually i decided to stay with DN1 instead of upgrading. I like the sound of the Analog Engines a bit more than Digitones. Both together are 16 Voices, thats more than enough.
I will probably treat myself a Kodamo Essence FM, which is not much more expensive, and has more individual outs. I would sequence the DN2 anyway from Hapax, so i dont need the internal sequencer anyway. For a portable jam - Syntakt is good /better for my purposes.
I deleted all patches on the DN1, and started my own libary, i just did 4 more sounds yesterday evening - if i get down to 256 patches, i might reconsider, but before that i see how far i get. Just upgrading does not help me. Modulating Pitch gives me the best results sofar for the DN1, as it sounds more “analogue” and offsetting the oscillators. The forum is full of good tipps - this is what i appreciate about the DN. (Ok and that hands on aspect, seting up the sound with modwheel, aftertouch, velocity mod, and the ability to preview.)
Much to explore with the DN1, its a great device!
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in fact it’s a lot more, you have 4 more filter types, overdrive is switchable before or after the filter ( huge difference ) like SRR, SRR is new as BR. 3rd LFO and the slew option on the random waveform is providing all together a lot more options, and that only on the FM tone machine, not speaking of other 3 machines. i myself includes was a little bit overwhelmed with options as other users. (16 tracks is a lot too). i still have the OG can’t sell it
Yes, its more - but we talk here what we can get out of the OG, and reasons NOT to upgrade. There are surly good improvements, but you can use filter bandwidth to accomodate for the new filters, or use a BRR FX with Overbridge. Would it make so much of a difference ? 16 Tracks surly makes it a better groovebox, we all here belive its the better device, with the better specs. But this thread finds reasons to get as much mileage as possible from the MK1.
Also the LFO slew option can be emulated, (mix 2 LFO) send them to the same destination. With the sound setup, you can also send modwheel to create the slew, or change the LFO destination /rate to create similar effects.
I am guilty myself with creating throw away sounds, things i create for a single purpose - a one shot i might resample. Milking a device to the maximum is a intresting adventure. And even better, if there is a oppurtunity to apply that on a future better device is the carrot.
Another reason might, that we want to wait till some bugs are ironed out - or Overbridge is working flawlessly. Etc. I waited for the MPC more than 2 years before buying it, untill it was in a stable state. I dont regret waiting.
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My favorite thing about going from DAW to machines is the limitation of tracks and options available, allowing me to finish more music as I don’t have the option to bring many more elements to a track.
So I’m actually quite sur of sticking with DN1 at least for now. 16 tracks seems great but would defeat that purpose. Also, for live purposes, I like having a very defined set up, with each track on DN1 playing the same range of elements on all tracks. I feel with 16 tracks I would end up adding too many tracks to handle and would get lost easily.
DN2 still might come as a replacement to Syntakt + Digitone someday, but I’m not eager to give up the analog machines on Syntakt. I guess the only real appeal for now of the DN2 in my set up is the 3rd LFO and extended filters option, which I doubt will ever be added to DN1. I would have instantly bought it with two stereo outputs and deep routing options though
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I don’t know if I could part with the OG Digitone.
- It’s actually made in Sweden
- I’ve used that machine on almost every track on1 album and 3 EPs. it always worms its way into every song. It’s easy and immediate. I don’t know if I need more Digitone :p.
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I consider myself lucky to have grabbed a boxed OG Digitone for £300 including postage the other day! I forgot how gnarly this thing gets, good lord. Takes very well to external processing as well. The filthiest kicks and bass I’ve ever heard.
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yes i would only part with it if i grab a digitone keys
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Pulling off the keys and rubbing the heck out of 'em with a piece of dry cloth will take off the goo.
I bought mine used with sticky keys and it did the trick ! 
Be gentle on the track keys though, colours easily goes off.
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Agreed to a trade for an OG DN yesterday, looking forward to getting my hands on it.
Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t kick a DN2 out of bed, and if I was a one box guy I personally wouldn’t go for a DN1 over it due to the extra tracks alone, but I’m not a one box guy at all. I like reaching for the device to get the thing I want when I want it.
The DN1 is going to be paired with my PreenFM2, which will give me all the FM I need, and the four midi tracks map perfectly onto the Preen’s four tracks. The DN1’s clean sines and well behaved ratios and quality filters and modern envelopes, coupled with the Preen’s slightly crusty sines, ratio freedom, junky filter and DX7 envelopes.
Working alongside my AK and DT1 over Overbridge, as well as my SC-155 for those general midi moods, it’ll be a treat.
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That’s some intense stickiness! I used some Goo Gone to clean a few buttons on my DT as suggested elsewhere, that seemed to help. Still a bit of work but I noticed that the more degraded the coating was, the easier it was to remove so I’d imagine this should rub right off.
Straight out of OG Digitone (except voice samples added “on top” in DAW), no Overbridge, on this brand new hardcore compilation. Obviously good enough as ever 
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