It only took 3 years in the 1800s.
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Itâs kind of funny, I can almost viscerally feel a bit of tension leaving these threads when thereâs some communication from Elektron. I would think most people in here are impatient but reasonable, and just frustrated at times. Not great work from Elektron, but in the end the people on the floor are just a bunch of Swedish nerds trying to make some cool products, and the vitriol in here can be a bit much at times. The June release someone mentioned might not be a bad punt, until whenever we can all just try to get along? Hmm? Okay. Sorry for the nerd part.
New Elektron tagline!
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Would love Dual VCO as an Easter surprise! 
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mhm i dont think thatâs ever possible cause of hardware dependenciesâŚbut routeable LFOs like in the Machinedrum would be awesomeâŚsince i donât need LFOs on every Track but sometime more than one on others.
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Erm, itâs already in Alpha or Beta. There are videos demonstrating the new dual VCO feature on YouTube.
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If some here seem to think, that it might be better for Elektron (or even us buyers) to keep silence, that kind of reasoning wonât work with me.
When I ordered my first Elektron device with the AR Mk2, I already had very concrete plans of buying more Elektron gear for recording with Overbridge. I had become really curious for their stuff. By that time, I even would have accepted a limited software delivery delay, within a roughly communicated time frame, if they would have taken customer concerns to be well informed more serious.
But after I read that incredibly non-informing Status Update message, and more so after another month of impertinent Elektron silence, that has completely changed my goodwill view: meanwhile I have decided, that I wonât spend ANY more money on Elektron gear, for years to come! And thatâs not just due to the delay, but at least as much due to Elektronâs roaring silence since.
If a company is managed in such poor style towards their paying customers, completely ignoring their legitimate interests through many weeks after delivery failures, I simply donât want to deal with them any more. Especially not with such a kind of management, which I regard as failing much worse, than their whole software development team ever could. Itâs them (their leading managers), who obviously underemployed for too long. Itâs them, who are responsible for wrong advertising, misleading customers, while seeing no problem pushing and selling lots of new hardware as long as possible, no matter if OS and software were ready enough. And then itâs them again, who donât know how to behave towards customers, after problems amount to the present size.
And from talking with some other users, Iâm also aware, that Elektron meanwhile might face a lot of similar buying behavior consequences from others like from me - mainly due to taking it over the top with their inappropriate silence, after ongoing software development problems.
So no, keeping silence is anything but a smart Elektron move for what is at stake now from my view. They are sadly mistaken acting like that, while their customers simply move on to pay for what they really need and want. If managers begin to remind customers of a bunch of little children, trying to vanish facing problems, just by keeping their eyes closed hiding them with their hands, that normally canât work out well in an adult real world. 
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Canât add much here, but having OB on my AK has been the key for me as a new Elektron user. Not for tracking as it has multiple outs anyway, but for sound design. Iâve made about 200 sounds from scratch and every one was done in OB.
For me, OB was the printed manual. It taught me everything, and once I understood the architecture I was then able to navigate the hardware alone in a live jam situation, because I knew where things would be.
Like I say this doesnât add much but I totally feel for people waiting for OB. I hope they deliver soon because, without it, I think I might have sold my AK and I think the same might happen to others.
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I feel the same w regard to my Rytm MKI. I do some rough sound design on the machine but when I start multitracking and refining sounds to fit into a mix using the plugin is so much faster since Iâm already in Ableton using the mouse. I feel bad for anybody who bought a newer box expecting this right out of the box.
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Quick, before itâs taken down!
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Yeah, itâs crazy to me. Two of the missing features that new purchasers always talk about, OB and multiple outs for tracking, Iâve had from day one! On a synth thatâs 5 years old.
It doesnât seem right and, nice friendly updates or not, Elektron have absolutely dropped the ball here.
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This whole situation reminds me of the show Silicon Valley. âFirst we build a box, promise them a box. Get as many sales as possible and bring in the money. THEN we start to work on the platform.â - paraphrased from Action Jack.
But for real, I hate having these kinds of negative feelings about products I really like and want to explore, but the marketing team of Elektron is what is really killing me.
Every day there are still people posting/asking about OB, oblivious to the fact that it just doesnât exist for the new boxes. That means Elektronâs marketers donât care about leaving a false impression to boost sales. I understand you need sales to fund the Platform, but tricking people only muddies up the whole process. Its hard to make money when you get your items returned within 24 hours for misleading advertising.
Iâm hopeful for OB to be out soon, but if itâs not out by the summer Iâm probably going to have to sell my DT and move on.
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Thanks for checking in anyway @Ess. Got to just echo what others have said, itâs partly because I see so much potential in combining the boxes with promised overbridge functionality that I have found this all a bit trying on my patience.
Roll on an end to this rather frustrating episode, I personally still canât wait for OB for the Digis. The more time I spend with them, the more they seem to me to be are crying out for it - (especially Digitakt).
yes especially Digitakt⌠since its basically been artificially limited by not having any eq or hi+lo filter.
probably the marketing reasoning for lacking eq and filter was to âpushâ people to purchase OB when OB was an extra charge, as OB will be the only way to tame the freq after the main filter on each track.
I donât know, i had a lot of faith in Elektron prior to this whole episode, and now I am seriously in doubt of their practices. Maybe itâs just par for the course when you introduce outside investment and marketing. No slight against the coders and core of Elektron, Iâm sure they donât agree with the direction they are being pushed. The marketing guys are using up the good will credit to push quick financial gains to please investors most likely. Seen this happen before.
Hope this isnât the case, but my trust in Elektron is pretty much 0 right now. Not because of the guys slaving away behind the scenes but because the management clearly dont give a flying f*** about the customer base due to the shoddy QC and communication.
Feel sorry for Simon that he is left as the only point of contact, and likely all of this is out of his control anywayâŚ
Would be great to see the base-width filter of DN being introduced on DT.
I feel the limitation of 2 outs on 8 track DT more than on 4 track DN. The DNâs extra filter helps here a lot - and I personally find synths easier to wrangle into a stereo submix than drums.
On a drum machine, my view is itâs always good to have at least 4 outs, if not fully individual ones. I usually want to at least have the kick on itâs own channel, use sidechains in the computer, treat individual drums with external FX etc. As always, thereâs workarounds⌠:O)
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yeah the base-width filter on DT would make a world of difference
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I used to have an AK4 which I primarily used with OB â and I recently returned to the Elektron fold by picking up a Digitakt. Iâm totally bemused to find it still doesnât have OB. Iâm surprised Elektron havenât got in trouble over false advertising. 
Are you also working on a new box simultaneously?
Thank you for the update Simon. Itâs greatly appreciated!
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As of February 9 2018 that text was âOverbridge for Digitakt will be free of charge, and become available in February 2018. Read more on Elektronauts.â In June 2016 it read âOverbridge for Digitakt will become available later this year.â Use the Wayback Machine to get screen caps.
Itâs worth noting that the ânot yet releasedâ disclaimer has always been positioned at or near the top of the Overbridge section, in line with the main text flow. So itâs not âin the fine printâ or anything.
If you feel that youâve been personally deceived my advice is to simply tell your story from your point of view. Itâs probably more useful to the agency youâre dealing with than trying to âbuild a caseâ against Elektron and enlisting others to âbear witnessâ and such. Playing DIY lawyer is generally a waste of time. If the professionals at a consumer protection agency believe you have a legitimate issue theyâll ask you for the details that are actually relevant.
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