Standalone Maschine+

Yep there is and I’ve insured that is is turned ‘on’

Correct; nothing from the outputs. But I do get signal/normal operation when I plug via USB to my SP404 mk 2 and select that as the audio interface… so it’s just the main out and headphones that are not providing any signal at all.

I feel slightly foolish to admit I’ve not tried a factory reset no!!! I’ll try that now!

I can’t plug into computer as I don’t have one (only work laptop that can’t take external devices) but the USB output does work with the SP404 as I said so clearly no issue there.

All is all it’s very odd… I am concerned as this was a ‘open box unit’ hence my worry it may be a dud. I’d have thought of someone else had this same issue and returned it the retailer would have checked it out, but you never know….


These are turned up? :grin:

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Haha, I wouldn’t put it past me…. But that is the first thing I checked on this instance, and yes they are!!!

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Edit.

Wait. I misspoke. That’s for microphone.

Sorry.

Just trying to help.

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I didn’t no (have anything plugged into input) I was just trying monitor standalone from headphones and via line out to a desk but was getting no signal at all.

It worked flawlessly over usb audio with the SP404 mk2 as the interface, which makes me think there is an issue with the outputs, but weird it’s headphones and outputs (not just one or the other) and that there is no signal at all…

I’ve run into a further problem now. I did a factory reset as advised. The device then asked me to log into/set up a NI account, which I did, then register the device… unfortunately it won’t let me register it as it says it’s registered to another user. It won’t let me progress beyond that screen now, so I am even further back than I was this morning!!

It’s clear that by ‘open box’ they mean ‘user return’ and someone has already registered this unit and not unregistered it before sending back. It’s quite possible I guess that they sent it back because they were having problems with the outputs and the retailer has just sold it on again.

Anyway, I’m currently stuck with a device I can’t even log into and pretty cross!!!

No probs, I appreciate it!!! Need all the help can get with this…

I can’t see past having to return it at the mo, but I’m pretty cross at the hassle that will cause. Live and learn though-my fault for trying to save a few ££ on an open box product.

Currently it’s completely useless as it won’t let me use the device until I register it following the reset and it won’t let me register it because it’s already registered to another user…

Ha-to think I like standalone units to get me ‘away from the computer’ I work at all day!!! What a hassle

Oh dear. I’m sorry to hear. You have to reach out to Native Instruments with your hardware ID they reset the device for you and usually respond within hours. At least that’s how it was for me.

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Oh man, return that thing ASAP. I’d also be mad at the store that sold you this. Absolute no-go.
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This kinda shit is my #1 biggest issue with the Maschine+. You can’t pull that kind of crap with a hardware unit. It’s not like there’s alternative software for it.

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Thanks, that’s good to know.

Yep-looking like I’ll do that. I’m pretty unimpressed. I’m writing to the store currently to outline the issue as I’m certainly not paying the shipping on the return!!

Yep, does feel like an issue. It’s really frustrating as there is a lot to really like in this unit, but things like this totally undermine it

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I would look to return asap if it were my purchase.

Shouldn’t be a lot of hassle with any store i’ve had to return to, ie repack, print off free return label that they send, write/print off a note about the issue(s) and wait up to a few days for a refund. You’ve gone above and beyond because the store sold you a dud.

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Definitely return it. I always think it’s worth the extra money for new products just to eliminate these hassles.

More so with niche products with proprietary software.

Or even worse. iLoc.

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Totally worth the price by the way!!!

Just be aware that there is some compromise with the stand-alone with cpu load, but it works also in hybrid mode with no issues.

I own the mk 3. And a 404, and they both cover ground the other doesn’t.

With the arranger and chopping way more robust on the Maschine.

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I returned a “new” unit that had been opened and missing some of it’s packaging, so it’s not necessarily straightforward. I suppose you could ring the store first to check it’s never been opened, as I did with the second one that I still use, but I bought a used one off ebay a few weeks ago that included a load of Expansions for a bargain price, and that looked like new, had all the packaging and was a great deal.

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Thanks, yeah you are totally right about the extra money to buy new being worth it in the long run-I’ll def bear that in mind moving forwards.

The brief play I had with it it did seem great and a good compliment to the SP404

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This is actually a good thing, what you’re going thru now, though annoying.

Now, however you get your unit, you will be more familiar with the layout, and now know if you go used, to ask about deregistering it before.

Plus you already open a NI account.

I agree, their customer support is really good. I’m sure they can help get the product registered right,

But the outputs not working are too much of a red flag to keep the unit you got.

What if you get that sorted and SOMETHING ELSE happens.

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That’s a really good way to look at it I guess! Thanks. You are right I have learned more about the Maschine in the last few hours than I probably would have done in 2 weeks of owning it if it all worked. Having to deep dive through the menus to troubleshoot etc has got me pretty well acquainted with the os if I do choose to go get another (which I may well do).

You’re right on this one though, even if NI can sort the registration issue (which I am sure they can even if it is a hassle) the issue with the inputs is a major hardware based concern on this particular unit. I’d struggle to trust it. Pretty certain at this point it’s a fault with the device rather than user error.

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I’m becoming more and more curious about the m+!

I’m primarily looking for something that can provide me with a range of different syntheses, and also a range of effects beyond the usual stuff. Added to that I’m hoping to be able to mix these things live.

However, I’m not particularly interested in sampling/loops, so I’d rather not get one if it’s mostly geared towards that. I wouldn’t feel right about only utilizing a small portion of it’s capabilities.

For those of you who use one, could you please chime in on this?

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Well, it is a sampling workstation. It’s geared towards that, and in terms of synthesis, it doesn’t actually synthesize itself, but hosts plugins. Same for effects.

And the M+, I have heard you have to be aware of cpu load, and it doesn’t support vst3’s yet. I just mentioned this a couple posts back.

But I love arranging on it and using the expansions, which it also is geared towards.

For what your interests are, it maybe better to go with an iPad for on the go syntheses. But you would definitely find use with it for other than sampling as long as you are okay with sequencing via TR Rec style. Which means adding steps to pads.

It’s great as a performance tool as well.

The M+ can provide a range of synthesis, as it can load a variety of NI synths, so FM, Massive and some other stuff. It’s easier to build patches on your computer and then load those into the M+ if you are using it standalone.

As for Effects, it has a few more than the usual. Some are a bit more interesting than other gear would have, but I wouldn’t say unusual effects are a strong point for it. But you can chain effects in interesting ways, and set up controller knobs to edit effects live, and that’s cool.

I make interesting drum sounds, and layered samples with it, so you don’t have to only use loops. However it’s primarily a sampler, if you only want synth sounds, then you might want something else. If you load up 5 complex synths, it can get overwhelmed - but it would be entirely dependant on the synths and patches you load.

I tend to make projects which are 80% samples with 20% synths, which is like two synths, a bass and a pad.

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