Sound Design : Techno stab

Hey everyone ! I just upgraded my Syntakt and I was wondering if you guys think any of the 2 new machines could be helpfull to design those techno stabs?

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I am reviving this topic as my GAS has got me once again… Digitakt is on its way :joy:

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I do think, looking at your comment above, that multitracking/layering either SY SWARM or double-stops/intervals of saws or squares on the SY RAW makes great stabs, as both have the upper harmonics that are so difficult to achieve with the chord engine.

But Digitakt … I’ve recently tethered DT and ST together, and I’m finding it’s an absolutely brilliant combination, hope you enjoy it! Being able to sub in a few samples (and a track count of 20) truly makes it feel limitless, and having the sound macro control over the ST from DT means I’m in no danger of abandoning the synth sounds, stabs included, from ST…

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Can’t say I enjoy it yet as I couldn’t find much time to play with it but I am sure I will :slight_smile:

I will have to start loking at both SY SWARM & RAW to try to achieve something with 'em !

I trying to add the Digitakt into the equation and I was wondering if it’s better to sample a “simple synth sound” (ie from the Syntakt or the A4) and then layer it into the Digitakt to create the chord/stab or is it better to already play it as a chord in the “source synth” and then sample it ?

What would be the best approach ?

As supposed by Adam Jay a few months ago, I got better results with the A4 than with the Syntakt (but didn’t try anything using the new machines yet)

Try both. Which do you like more? If it sounds good, it is good.

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There is no best approach. The best approach is to play around with the settings of whatever Device you have in front of you until it sounds the way you like.
I have good results with the Syntakt, when I don’t use the Chord Engine, but the Raw or Swarm Engine and use multiple tracks.

There is a video from Martin Stürtzer in Youtube, who samples the raw and unfiltered sound of a minor chord on his Juno 60 to make Dub Stabs out of it. You should get that sound (or close enough to it) out of nearly every Synth that has a SAW-Oscillator. And even if it’s monophonic: Either sample all 3 notes after another into the DT, put them on 3 Tracks, play them together, resample, voilla. You should be able to do that even with only one Sample pitching the other 3 to the right notes.
On the DT you can also just use a SAW-Single Cycle Waveform out of the Tools folder and have that chord in a short amount of time with a little bit of resampling.

How the stab sounds later depends way more on your Filter and Modulation work, than on the raw sound of the SAW Oscillator your are using.

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did you guys know that sy bits can do three note chords (on one track)? :wink:

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Are you using the overtone that shows up on high reduction rates?

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yes :wink:

I am getting better in this “there is more in every engine than you might think” \o/

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Didnt know about it ! Can you tell us more ?

Gonna try both approachs and see what happens

  • BRR: lowest value (2.00)
  • WAVE: Sawtooth

Various detune intervals give various triads. Around 7.10 or 9, it’s a major chord. At other values there are other chords.
Unfortunately, I did not find a minor chord …

(which may be because the minor chord doesn’t have a simple frequency ratio.)

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Instead of layering samples, we can layer synths :wink:

(but why do we want to always recreate stabs that already exist although we can make new ones?)

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This is one of the most powerful tracks I’ve heard on any Elektron machine and I’ve watched a s**t load over the years. Well Done!

My Syntakt must have been faulty. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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holy shit that brings back some memories

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or PTSD

I suffer from CPTSD, but this song is one of the very few nice memories of my “childhood”.

Sorry to bump but I was curious if the Digitone has been updated or has any chord machines on it. Basically how it compares to the Syntakt for this.

I had the DN years ago, need to see if there have been any updates since. I make a lot of stabs and sample them. but sometimes I want a synth that so I can modulate the stab and also change up the voicings of the chord a little throughout the patterns. Not sure if that is doable via Plock on the DN or not?