"Song mode" Digitakt

In that case, I hope solutions come your way asap. Good luck with the show.
Tony

THank you man !

Can’t tell you the specifics on the midi in/out now but I’ll sit down with the Digitakt tonight and figure it if no one has chimed in by then. Might take me till tomorrow.

Right now there is no song mode, no preprogrammed and saved pattern chains.

You can however change how many steps a pattern plays when chained. This is in the secondary scale menu. This includes extending the steps to 2, 3, 4 times beyond 64 steps. Basically how many times do you want the pattern to repeat before going to the next pattern.

For me right now, typically patterns 1 & 8, 2 & 9, etc are copies. That way I can chain them for slight variations on pattern length. Leaving one pattern blank and tagging it to the end of song will let you know to get to the Digitakt and queue your next chain.

I’d like to see at least one saved pattern chain per bank or an internal midi loop to control the program changes with.

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Perhaps you can line up the patterns in succession for each bank so it’s easy to recreate the chains, like it’s always pattern 1->2->3->4, etc. and use pattern copies or the ch. len parameter to set how many times they each repeat like @Jogerflocky is saying? :thinking:

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Thank you guys for those ideas they are the best options right now i think !
It might just need a bit of reflexion to play with scale menu and steps to reach the wanted final chain.
The option for the STOP thing at the end of a song might be empty patterns that runs a few times and let you the time to stop manually the digitakt (for live)

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You could also program a drone, noise, or simplified beat that keeps momentum going onstage till you switch banks. Youd know it’s the end of the song but your audience would be less likely to disengage. This way you only lose sound for the bank switch and setting up the next pattern chain.

Edit: you can also do this for setting up the next pattern chain. When you song is repeating the last pattern, you can select a new bank, your “intro” pattern and let it play while you set up the chain. Once you’re ready, hit stop then start on time and you’re into you next song. It’s all performance so good luck!

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Yeah, it’s almost like a dirty joke Elektrons playing on us… Your best bet is to sell your DT and get a MPC LIVE…

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I think realistically the Digitakt probably isn’t for you unless song mode gets added in down the line… but we don’t know if that will ever show up. Digitakt is more instrument than hit play and walk away machine that your program… I understand liking a live sequence going but at the same time if you don’t plan on playing the Digitakt you probably way better of just getting something to play back long backing tracks or an MPC that gives you a long linear midi sequence. You can do it with something like Octatrack but still I would say all Elektron instruments are meant to be played and not just used as a backing track sequencer and are performance based instruments.

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I’m going to have to respectively disagree with you on your comment about Elektron boxes being meant to be played instead of hitting play and walking away.
It’s mostly the walking away part. There’s absolutely no reason to purposely handicap a sequencer that sequences other midi instruments by not giving it a song mode. It’s nothing more then an underhanded business tactic to prevent the OT from having competition in it’s smaller sibling the DT. Why even give the DT midi sequencing then? It only means one thing, they want to keep the OT relevant… The DT has so much potential yet it will never get to the legendary status it could have reached, it’s sad really… I do believe that the MPC LIVE is the most rounded box at present. It’s not without its faults but it will grow in its feature set, because it’s not in competition with its bigger sibling the MPC X…

Just my two cents…lol

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Thanks to everyone on those toughts but i think we should keep this topic about the Digitakt. I know these other machines like MPCs, Roland Sp and their “better” functions, but precisely the interesting thing is to reflect with the machines that we already have and the different ways to divert it from its “original” functions than to directly switch on other hardwares because we don’t find any solutions. With all my respect for the people who intervene in this topic, it is with this kind of reflexions that one makes evolve the use of our machines.
So i think i could use like a foot controller to switch between different patterns on the digitakt, and like assign a foot control to start/stop etc…
does anyone had ever experienced that ?

Love

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Yeah, that’s true… to refine my thought I might say instead to get the most out of elektron gear you have to go more hands on. Even with song mode there are things you can’t sequence on the octatrack that might need your attention while preforming. Watching dataline preforming he will build full sequences live from scratch… if you want to get the most out of elektron stuff you do need to get pretty hands on. Personally that’s what I want out of the digitakt because that’s how I like to use it but it would be nice for it to have a song mode for people using it differently. I mean https://youtu.be/l3Iex-NJoEI really shows what you can do when you really get hands on with it. Mpc x is more well rounded for sure but is also lacks a lot of the things that let you preform so well on elektron gear. I mean sp303-sp404 are legendary and people often don’t even sequence them.

Ok back on topic… I guess there would be the potential to sequence a song mode from an outside device for digitakt for now… or a midi foot controller, keith mcmillen softstep I think can have custom midi messages but I’m not really sure if it will work completely as I’m not sure if patch forward is a thing and each pad would be for selecting a specific patch/bank… something to look into though.

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I’ll try this very soon and keep you in touch of my discoveries ^^!
I’ll be trying to control the digitakt with a voicelive from Helicon, and see what happens !
But i’ll create a new topic soon about that .
Cheers

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To the OP - For what you want to do, the Digitakt isn’t the box to do it. Not at this point anyway.

In regards to there being a lack of Song mode on the Digitakt, can I use the Octatrack to run my patterns in Songmode and control the Digi through MIDI?
So Octa will be running A01, A02, A03, B01 chained in a sequence and the Digi will be able to receive the program changes and follow the pattern changes?

I think it lags by one pattern on the DT

That is poor news indeed, I hope it will be addressed in the future :slightly_frowning_face: .

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I didn’t get round to testing it before it was returned, but I do recall reading about it in another thread.
Best do a search to make sure?

Yeah there’s a bug, Digitakt lags making pattern changes when slaved to another machine. Hopefully the fix for it is coming

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I don’t have any issues using the mnm to trigger the dt.

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You are lucky then. It’s a known bug. When receiving program changes messages for pattern change the digitakt lags behind one bar. It’s been discussed quite a bit in other threads.

I too have my monomachine connected to my digitakt. Not sure what you mean specifically by trigger but the pattern change bug is there when I use electron sync to keeps pattern in sync. Others have reported it as well. Another user is having trouble slaving the DT to his OT for the same reason.

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