Software Groovebox?

Are there any software groovebox i can use on my MacBook ?
I love Tahti, It lets me sound design and produce so fast.
However 64 steps is not enough, and i’d love to be able to make a song start to finish in one environment.
I don’t mind paying for any suggestions, as long as the price is reasonable 100-200 Euros.

I would love an expanded Tahti, and i love that it doesn’t have a midi roll, the interface is perfect and so it’s everythig, if there’s something like that i am ready to spend!
Any other similar software or hardware i will look.

Also a software lookalike of the op-1 would be crazy, if it exists.

Enjoy

FYI this is tahti https://next.tahti.studio/ built by @httnn

Something like 2020 ? https://2020.dubrussell.com/

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It is a tricky question. What is a Groovebox, if not hardware you can use without a computer? :slight_smile:

You might ask here
Software Grooveboxes or Groovebox Software for Mac

You migh ask for an update in the Tahti thread Tahti – a software groovebox

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This is impressive. This web app is better at slicing and sequencing drum breaks than the DT II.

FWIW I use Battalion as a groovebox.

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Maschine and MPC both have software versions of their kit.

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BAM – has proper desktop version
Drambo – runs on Silicon Macs, but with some quirks.
Dialekt – exists but has fixed tracks layout, so i never tried it.

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would be pretty easy to extend this to 128 actually

song mode is less likely to happen, but you can very easily sequence multiple patterns in a single tahti plugin (still in beta) instance using MIDI notes inside a DAW

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I don’t think any stand up to your specific needs around step counts and things but things I’m using as software grooveboxes:

Fors Opal
Cong Burn Strokes and Stacks

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Ableton Live

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Reason is a sw groovebox? Or a tracker?

You could call it a groovebox imo.

Fors Opal is appealing, however i do not have an ableton license and so it’s impossible to me to use it

Maybe a tracker is what I am looking for, most probably.
However Renoise is not suited for me as I am lacking the time needed to research proper synths to use inside of it as it does not come with many software isntruments if I remember correctly
Thanks for the suggestion.
Other people Told me about reason as a daw-groovebox, may i ask why is that? I thought it was just like the others

Mostly yes, however i think that the word ‘groovebox’ bring to people a different idea, the one i am trying to replicate on my macbook.
Don’t ask me why, as it would probably take a long time to answer, but i find myself better at using step-based, not midi based and a little cloed system groovebox.
It lets me make more things faster :slight_smile: than using a daw
Instrumental obv, for vocals i would pull out logic or anything else

If sampling is at all part of your workflow, i encourage you to try serato studio. I’m a big fan of how it lays out the standard qwerty keyboard into 16 pads you can use at all times. To me that makes it feel much more groovebox-like than other options

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Have you tried Sunvox? ( i know it is russian but dont state any political or ideology about it)
The sequencer is tracker based, but the sound generation is “modular”
You can test some of its sound capabilities here JavaScript SunVox Player
and download the software from ( i know it is russian but dont state any political or ideologic behind it)
WarmPlace.ru. SunVox Modular Music Studio

The last comp everything made with Sunvox only

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Keep in mind, Live, Reason, and Logic are all decades old. Live started as an open system audio looper that allowed you to bring in any sample or audio. [Then very early on added midi looping].

Reason was a closed system that did not allow you to import audio. Then eventually they did.

Logic was more of a traditional DAW, but now it has added features similiar to Live.

Nevertheless they are operate relatively similiar.

As for feeling that you do better with a step sequencer vs midi programming, that is a trick of the mind. They are literally the same thing. The map just looks different.

not really.
step sequencers are mainly targeted for pattern-based workflow.

DAWs are linear since all of them are developed around tape recorder metaphor, and tape recorders are linear AF.
yes, modern DAWs do have clips — but clips still are not considered «first class citizens» in conventional DAW workflow.