Send PGC from Digitone2 to Norand Mono?

I have a Digitone2 here, and a Norand Mono mk1

In the Digitone2 i have set “Prog Ch Send” on true, and tried “Prog Chg out ch auto” (and out ch 1-16 too).

In the Norand Monos manual I can only find the following infos:

“Patterns can be changed with program changes messages.”
and
"Mono supports program change to switch pattern, send a
program change between 0 and 63 to set the current pattern.
Note that play mode will affect the behavior just as it would if
you switch pattern manually."

That’s it, all I have found.

Unfortunately I don’t know how to.
Any help here? Does anyone with Digitone2 or Digitakt2 (should work similar I guess) managed to sync pattern?

It seems to be a bug:

I don’t want to update my mono as it will introduce other bugs :frowning:

Can you check your firmware version? I found some info here which seems to implicate a firmware bug.

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Found this too.
I guess I will switch like a good old synth fiddler then, like we used to do.

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Well, if you can get onto mono FW 2.1.0 and test, that might tell you something (even if you ultimately move back to whatever version you’re currently on).

I haven’t heard of mono being negatively impacted by firmware downgrades, I think I even recall @plragde mentioning he chose to downgrade firmware and stay there.

I have a 1.? firmware that seems to be stable.
I’m afraid to update because it seems to be really stable and I don’t want to brick it. First world problem.

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Lol very fair indeed!

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I think it is possible to update, try a 2.x firmware, and revert if you don’t like it. I think the chances of bricking are small, and bricking is one circumstance that might actually get a response from Norand help.

I retreated from 2.x because I didn’t really care for most of the new features, didn’t like the reports of bugs, and 2.x actually removed what I thought was a major plus (in a way that would be considered an improvement by most people, but not me). But there are plenty of people that stay on 2.x and like it and either have no issues or put up with the occasional crash. There are enough users here to help (I don’t know of a better form for Norand help than Elektronauts, right now).

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I knew I’m getting troubles with updates (2.2.0r…)
It now just ignores Din Midi.

I really should listen to my guts, downgrade doesn’t work too.
Nice, now I have a useless Norand Mono mk1 that doesn’t sync to din midi.

:frowning:

Downgrade is possible, just do it carefully. Instructions here:

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I just did it as described.
I tried it more than one time now (I managed to update the norand, it’s exactly the same procedure…)

It stops now at 150 bytes.
It’s supposed to be fun, right?

I’m sorry this is happening to you. It’s the nature of the machine. Let it rest for 24 hours and try again. Then email Norand and be as contrite as possible. You will get your device back eventually.

I’m so done, perhaps its really a good idea to just stop for today.

Okay, I managed to downgrade.

I’m on windows and needed to set the transfer delay to 1 (preset is 50) milliseconds in the sysex transfer software. Without this I was not able to downgrade at all.

then, and this is a design fux on norand side: it looks like it changes internal adresses of settings from firmware to firmware. so if you change firmware it might happens that you got totally scrambled settings. I just manually reset all setup (transpose, scale, beat div, midiclock etc) like described in the manual - they were all over the place. This beautiful synthesizer really needs a factory wipe function.

I even had to clear out sound and pattern and reprogram my shit into it.

Good night!

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I agree this is quite obscure, but it is in the V1 update instructions that are included with all firmware ZIPs.