Hey guys,
I’ve been finally trying to work out how to sample in the OT!
I’d like to sample my 303 going through track 7 using a thru machine.
Been reading the manual, the Merlin tip sheet and the youtube know how video and it says using a recording buffer on the next track.
Unfortunately I’m using all other tracks, is there any way of recording from the track itself, or do I need to juggle around some tracks?
Track recorders are independent of the track’s machine.
So you can have a thru machine on track 7 and set track recorder number 7 up to record track 7.
Lucky 7s! 
I am full of fail today, would it be possible for you to walk me through it?
Thank you! 
Wouldn´t you still need to use one “physical” track? Any of the eight tracks can record to track recorder 7 if you want.
Why do you want to use an Thru machine and sample from it too? Perhaps you could use the mixer to get your 303 audio thru and having an Flex machine to sample your 303 whenever you want. Depends on your needs.
I have a devilfish modded 303 and the only downside is that they take the ring connector of the audio out and turn it to a Filter FM in, the net result is if you plug headphones or just run the machine through the OT mixer you’ll only get sounds out of the left side. (even if you just set the input to C instead of C+D for example)
So the work around has been to use it on a thru machine, means I can send it to both speakers/headphones (though interestingly I don’t have to pan it, it just works)
Kinda complicated, but it is what it is!
You could instead use a flex machine on Track 7 with a recorder trig to constantly sample and playback that input, then disarm the recorder trig when you want to just work with the sampled bit.
You could instead use a flex machine on Track 7 with a recorder trig to constantly sample and playback that input, then disarm the recorder trig when you want to just work with the sampled bit. [/quote]
It was something along this I was thinking too, hence my question to OP.
But I was thinking that he somehow always needed the audio to pass thru for any reason. Which could be done with the mixer, right?
One downside could be potential phasing issues, when having both the 303 going thru (via mixer) and sample playback at the same time.
You could instead use a flex machine on Track 7 with a recorder trig to constantly sample and playback that input, then disarm the recorder trig when you want to just work with the sampled bit. [/quote]
It was something along this I was thinking too, hence my question to OP.
But I was thinking that he somehow always needed the audio to pass thru for any reason. Which could be done with the mixer, right?
One downside could be potential phasing issues, when having both the 303 going thru (via mixer) and sample playback at the same time.[/quote]
If you want audio to pass through, you could use a scene with XDIR in the mixer set to zero and the track level set to MAX. Then fading to that scene would fade out the live input and fade in the sample.
Downside is that you have no FX when you’re just going through the mixer direct except for whatever is on your master FX.
I have a devilfish modded 303 and the only downside is that they take the ring connector of the audio out and turn it to a Filter FM in, the net result is if you plug headphones or just run the machine through the OT mixer you’ll only get sounds out of the left side. (even if you just set the input to C instead of C+D for example)
So the work around has been to use it on a thru machine, means I can send it to both speakers/headphones (though interestingly I don’t have to pan it, it just works)
Kinda complicated, but it is what it is! [/quote]
Right, there´s no pan parameter in the mixer.
Maybe some kind of special cable or splitbox would take care of that situation, so you could utilize the mixer instead of using a whole track with a Thru machine.
You could instead use a flex machine on Track 7 with a recorder trig to constantly sample and playback that input, then disarm the recorder trig when you want to just work with the sampled bit. [/quote]
It was something along this I was thinking too, hence my question to OP.
But I was thinking that he somehow always needed the audio to pass thru for any reason. Which could be done with the mixer, right?
One downside could be potential phasing issues, when having both the 303 going thru (via mixer) and sample playback at the same time.[/quote]
If you want audio to pass through, you could use a scene with XDIR in the mixer set to zero and the track level set to MAX. Then fading to that scene would fade out the live input and fade in the sample.
Downside is that you have no FX when you’re just going through the mixer direct except for whatever is on your master FX.[/quote]
Have to check up that one, I don´t really fully understand your tip here!
What about a pickup machine?
Not entirely sure of your point there, but assuming you’re able to separate the good out from the FM ‘ring’ with an audio cable, then if you present the OT with a mono input, say input A, and something else at input B, then the following should occur (record settings source INAB)
A B = Both sounds hard panned
A = Only A spread on both sides (Flat)
A = Only B spread on both sides (Flat)
A+B = Equal A & B spread to both sides (Flat)
and if you record the 303 thru track as a SRC3 and adjust the thru settings a,b,ab etc you’ll get the same
so the point about panning and your 303 hack is lost on me in terms of OT workflow, i follow your headache with headphones, but a cable adaptor would sort that too
for what it’s worth most of the time the only reason I even use a thru machine is so I can sample from it (and/or mangle it)…seems using it for other purposes would be the exception…if you don’t need to sample or mangle it, just go straight into mixer (IMO)
also, don’t forget about parts…they work great for having a thru and then sampling and working with the sampled data in a different part while the thru is still running on the other part
similar to what dataline did here:
p.s. a lot of people (that don’t have volcas) don’t realize he just used the default sequences that come loaded on the volcas…if you happen to have the volcas it allows you really see/hear what was mangled 
for sure, another common use: some external gear could use a bit of FX treatment, plus you can plock the input volume and input select !
Having read your conundrum
My advice would be to set up another track
Track 8 for example (of your not using it as master)
Set up a flex recorder, and set it to sample track 7 (you can choose the inputs on the rec page menu)
Hope you manage
for sure, another common use: some external gear could use a bit of FX treatment, plus you can plock the input volume and input select ![/quote]
you know, never thought about plocking the input on a thru track…great idea
though sadly whenever I get my rytm I won’t have any inputs left on my everyday setup (OT, A4, RYTM)…that’s always been my big complaint on the OT…not enough inputs (when doing stereo)
Hi. I am trying this very thing and I’m not able to sample anything but silence…argh. 
That’ll likely be because you’re recording the wrong ‘input’ if you’re sampling a SRC3 input you need to choose that (or press it, if manual)
Wow…yeah…newbie mistake. I wasn’t pressing the ‘midi’ button to sample internally…ouch!