Samplers with analogue filters / Synths with sample oscillators

It’s not that modern or intuitive I guess, but Evolvers can play imported single cycle waveforms through analog filters

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Deluge can use samples as a synth osc

I can’t speak to how the Rytm works MIDI wise, but if it can send notes and cc messages then you can just loop the MIDI back. Like I was saying, I got this working on the Circuit Rhythm. It doesn’t have dedicated MIDI tracks. But it can send the notes and ccs from each track. Doing it that way meant that I needed to sacrifice a track to use as a control track, which meant that I had a maximum of 7 note polyphony instead of 8. But it got the job done.

Still, even if that works perfectly, I think the best thing would be controlling it or sequencing it from an external device.

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Oh cool, I get it now. Sounds like it would probably work for the RYTM. If I get a chance, I will see if it works with the S2400.

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Prophet X as you mention is really the best thing for this available.

People have created user oscillators for the Korg Minilogue XD / Prologue that allow for the loading of samples, with limitations since it wasn’t really designed for that: wavShelf: sample importer for Minilogue XD/Prologue

UDO Super 6 can load user waveforms.

For old stuff, the Korg DSS-1 / DSM-1, Casio FZ-1 / FZ-10M. Sequential Prophet 3000

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Gotharman little deformer has analog filters

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Yeah it’s weird that a sample based/crossfade looping synthesizer doesnt really exist!

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It exists, just not in this dimension yet. It’s sort like the Korg MicroSampler meets Digitakt. But really it’s just the Digitakt Keys that should be, with polyphony, analog filters, and stereo sampling.

I still say the Prophet X

Or you could get into eurorack and run disting on wavetable or sampler mode through whatever filter you please. I mean, it’s probably not cheaper or sound better, but why let that get in the way?

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Yeah it’s not polyphonic either, or to make it so would be as much as the Prophet X. Currently that’s out of my budget.

I wonder if the MI Ambika could be modified for this? It has digital oscs into 6 analog filters, open source so maybe someone could create a new voice board to play samples?

That’s my worry for the Minifreak too. The filters might be analogue but I’ve found them on par with the analogue filter in the JDXi, insomuch as they are analogue but other than the sweeter resonance, there isn’t much analogue character about them.

Thanks all for the suggestions, so far it does seem like there are sort-of-solutions but most are a bit of a cludge or have issues or are just digital. Not that there’s a problem there, I’d probably be happy with a something like Tera Pro on the iPad if it took samples in this way and just instead get a warming circuit such as an Analog Heat*.

The MC707 intrigues me for this but when I had one before the only programming was on the unit (so while Zencore Pro is the software editor, it doesn’t allow user samples). Also I can’t recall if you can save patches on it or if they are linked to the sequence. The JDXi is like that, patches are linked to a sequence and not stored centrally like in normal synths.

*because Tera Pro is superb and has a fantastic sound including lots of characterful filters that match or beat digital filters in hardware. It would just benefit from that studio trick of being taken out the box to add a little life.

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it is actually, they chain together like voice cards.

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The filter isn’t though? It would be paraphonic, no? You’d need modular polyphony (osc, env, filter per voice) which is currently still exceedingly expensive. I’d not be opposed to it, there are some stunning filters in euroland, but polyphony is still in its infancy here.

I wonder the same thing as OP.

We touched on this topic in this other thread also:

I picked up a Mirage about 5 years ago and can’t part with it, even if I’m not using it all the time. I can make the most gorgeous lawnmower sounds or single-cycle sounds, detuned through those Curtis filters… with 8 dual-osc voices… :heart_eyes: (or more, using Soundprocess)

Seems like modular folks have a lot of options, especially lately. I hold myself back from modular, but when looking at recent arrivals at one of my local synth stores, I’ve been seeing a few sample-playing modules … which of course could then be fed into whichever great analog filter someone has.

Folks rightly point out that the Rytm is an option:

For those willing to combine two instruments, to me it seems a shame to (for example) bypass the great digital filter on a Model:Samples/OT, Roland S-series, or later Ensoniq, in order to feed the unfiltered audio through the analog filter on an A4, Syntakt, or Heat. But maybe there are some creative, practical uses for doing so? A tracker program running on an Amiga, for example, doesn’t have a good hardware filter (it’s “on” or “off”) so those raw samples from the Paula sound great running through the analog filter on the Syntakt…

Korg Modwave? That can load Serum wavetables AFAIK, I’d presume you could load any WAV file to the device.

waldorf quantum MK2 has analog filters right? can load samples/wavetables/granular stuff on top of all the synthesis models.

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Definitely, and also a pain in the butt to set up. Honestly the prophet X is a value in comparison… but it COULD be done.

I always like the results from using single cycle wave samples on the RYTM.

This for sure! I dont have a Retrokits but I think about it a lot.
I usually just program pseudo poly stuff on the RYTM. It can be a pita but also gets unique results.

The Tempest makes a great poly synth that uses samples as oscillators

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