Roto Control (MIDI controller by Melbourne Instruments)

There are some bugs, still. I got it to crash 3-4 times.

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Any recommendations for stands to angle this like in the product videos we’ve been seeing? I was secretly hoping a pair of angled 3D printed legs would be in the box… alas no.

With regards to the power. I ended up getting a magnetic USB C adapter that I can comfortable remove without excessive wear and tear on the cable and USB C sockets.

Also emailed MI to see if they could add some kind of deep sleep mode or power detection on the power USB port which controls the whole unit. I’m really not a fan of the power solution they opted for. The rest of the device is great, but that decision? Not good.

If you like performing on the push, it would be amazing, because you could have the Roto in permanent mixer mode and use the encoders on the push for your macros/parameters.

The Roto keyboard-style buttons are also waaaay nicer and quicker for a track mute than the M+Track button combo on the push.

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Would you mind sharing a link? :pray:

they’re not recommended / compliant with USB spec. just saying. They can add a risk of their own.
I agree that it doesn’t feel right that I have to keep plugging / unplugging though… even an ‘auto-off’ feature would save having to do that (when Ableton shuts down I mean)

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Fair point. Will have to think about it :+1:

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Agree, an auto off could be nice but I wouldn’t waste time second guessing their design decisions.

MI intentionally didn’t add an off switch - so I think it’s safe to assume it doesn’t need one and plugging/unplugging is fine.

They know their device better than any of us.

The main way I have crashed mine is due to some bugs when it receives NRPN messages. Until they fix this, I would avoid using CC’s that NRPN uses, such as 98 and 99.

Obviously your crashes may have a completely different cause, Im just taking the opportunity to share my experience.

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yeah it definitely works fine… i am only worried about wear and tear of the socket tbh (probably unnecessarily there’re probably fine for hundreds of thousands of uses)

Can each knob have it’s own midi channel?

Yes.

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Ran into another issue mapping third party plugins today - I reached out to Melbourne support to let them know. If you load libraries using NI’s Kontakt or Komplete Kontrol even with the individual config changes in Live’s plugin area the knobs don’t map properly from instrument to instrument.
What I mean is I tried mapping the 8 macro knobs that NI gives you per instrument in Komplete Kontrol and it doesn’t stick, just gives the last mapped knobs which were from another instrument, etc.
Good news is it seems to be a Roto Control thing so maybe it can be fixed eventually.

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Brilliant!

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https://www.etsy.com/listing/1871102349/melbourne-instruments-roto-control-stand

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Perfect!

Anyone here getting weird page switches? I’m mapping some controls in the VST3 version of u-he Diva in Ableton, and sometimes, not even always when I’m in learn mode, clicking a control in Diva’s “configure” section in Ableton, or even clicking on a control in Diva, will cause my Roto-Control to switch to page 1. I haven’t narrowed it down enough to know if it’s always page 1, and which controls cause it under which circumstances.

But wanted to know if anyone’s experienced any page switches when not actually hitting the left or right buttons on the device (or clicking on a new page in Roto-Setup).

I’ll investigate further.

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Not getting that error here - sorry to see you’re experiencing that. Reach out to support - they’ve helped me hugely so far

Just received the Roto-Control, very impressed so far - great build quality, the mechanical keys feel great and the encoder tech is really cool. I have only used with Ableton so far, though was relatively easy to setup once I read this thread.

The only thing I haven’t been able to work out yet is when you are working with high resolution midi and you want to set the indent to center, you cannot do this accurately as the indent range is 0-127 and the parameter range is 0-16383. You set the indent to 64, though as an example on the roland cloud tb-303 plugin for the tuning parameter this gives me a value of 1 instead of 0. If I set the indent to 63, this gives me a value of -2 on the tuning parameter.

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Related question - how are you using high resolution midi with the Roto in Ableton?

Is this something that I need to enable, or is it enabled by default via the Roto control script?

pretty sure in MIX and PLUGIN modes high res encoders are enabled by default…

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