Roland TR-1000 User Thread

Well the great news is that it sounds friggen AWESOME to me

is the bass synth and everything coming from the tr-1000?

That is also a sad thing…
I love the thing…

But this audio gap breaks the deal for me.
Sure, others can use it, workaround it, like on tr8s, but I do not think i can…

Yes everything is TR1000 internal engines.

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Crazy.

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Yeahhh…that gap is just way too noticeable in a live setting for me. Dang.

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Well, I imagine once someone actually makes contact with Roland Engineers they should be able to tell everyone definitively whether or not this is addressable or a hardware limitation that cannot and will not be addressed. Not anticipating they get back to anybody today though, maybe after the weekend.

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Returning it then. Damn.

I wrote to Roland support.

I really dont want to… But 2700 eur machine with this, I can not afford that.
I need to be able to use it to its fullest.

Lets see what we hear from Roland.

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Yes. By the way I feel the same about Assimil8or! Amazing sound.

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Can you link the deep dive? Getting mine today.

Thanks

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Thanks! Was looking for something like this

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Given what’s in the manual I’m guessing the best case scenario will be that it gets fixed but only for patterns containing the same kit:

Patterns always reference a kit. Therefore, the TR-1000 will change the kit every time the pattern changes. To cleanly do this, the TR-1000 inserts a small amount of silence when the kit is changed.

If you want to maintain the same kit across multiple patterns, change the KIT Ref SW parameter to OFF.

That just reads like there’s no buffer at all.

If if remains as severe as it sounds on the audio example my interest in this will sadly be gone since switching sounds/kits dynamically is a big part of the potential of the machine on paper for me… It sounds like when you don’t quite match a sample loop to the BPM properly or something.

I’m sorry for those who’ve bought it and are disappointed, but really appreciate them bringing these things to light for those of us thinking about it. At least we can weigh up whether we can get around them or not for our use case.

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Oh no….
So the manual does mention this……

Patterns with same kit don’t have this issue

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Well that sucks.

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Ah OK, I thought it was affecting everything at the moment.

Even so, it does suggest it’s just expected behaviour. It’s a real shame because the sound of this is excellent to me, dynamic in a way that modern stuff generally isn’t.

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I may return mine as well.

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Based on a quick try here, if the patterns use the same kit, they already switch without the gap. If the kit is saved in a different slot (even a copy of the same kit in another kit slot), you will get the gap.

I don’t usually switch drum sounds a lot within my typical usage of a drum machine, but I do note that a lot of other settings are stored in TR-1000’s kits, and some of these I would like to be able to switch more seamlessly when changing patterns.

Seems like the kit reference works to allow patterns to be recalled without automatically changing the KIT. I tried and don’t seem to get a gap under that condition.

I’m not sure this will ever impact me. I typically write a track with the same kit and don’t change during. I could see more experimental music doing this though.

TR1000 has so many outputs that for more drastic changes, I’d probably just build 2 kits inside of 1 and do switches that way. I do stuff like for B sections.

The other question i have is as a work around, could you resample the sounds, play them as a sampler and just change the samples instead?

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Yeah but if you’re playing live you’re not goi got use the same kit for the whole session. You’re going to change kits.

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