Roland TR-1000 User Thread

I dont think the timing is affected

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I‘m not a user. Just reading in the train out of interest and being a fan of elektronauts, roland and UR etc . Very interesting articles. In gearspace (not a regular reader, here yes) they quote a faq with the following answer. Users tested it and said it gets better with the 2nd setting but not perfect.

„ The sequencer/system is tuned for [TR-1000] to act as the clock source, keeping its internal tracks tightly locked while closely syncing any connected gear set as clock destinations. While the will accept an external clock and follow as a clock destination, some latency can occur due to its internal timing design.

To improve performance in these setups, we added two key features:

Track Sync (found in Project Settings): switches between “All Tracks” and “Layered Gens”. AlI Tracks is the tightness internal timing, though has the most latency when externally clocked. Layered Gens loosens the internal track timing a bit (while keeping the Layer timing tight) with the benefit of reducing the external latency substantially.

Nudge (found in Tempo screen): Acts as a clock offset that can be used to fine-tune timing even more. This works for both Track Sync modes. “

I would be interested if there is a lock pattern and kit setting like on 8s? for jamming without worrying.
I only have tr8 still…

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Is this via MIDI program change?

This was and still is an issue on the TR8s that was never fixed.

To be clear, any master device I had sending a MIDI Program Change to the TR8s to change the pattern, the TR8s would lag and go out of sync when the next pattern would kick in.

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well I just re-listened to your recording, seems like timing is interrupted. Can you record and over dub an external metronome?

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Oh… ok will try again!

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I was looking forward to this thread being for tips and tricks with great sound examples to hear what people come up with, but now it’s another bug thread :frowning:

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That hurts!! :grimacing:

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As far as I understood, this is no bug but normal behaviour (because Roland did not build in an audio buffer for changing kits) - and people are discussing workarounds and exchange tips for settings.

So what artists were involved? Can’t imagine they’d go like, ah, yeah, nobody will notice.

Depends. Classic Detroit techno should be fine with one kit per track (on the record like in vinyl record) and 1 pattern + mutes.

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In a studio yes. Not while live performing. I mean wtf. They worked years on this machine didn’t include an audio buffer for seamless transitions. Can’t be true.

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And as we learned, this is normal TR8S behaviour, too, and people use it regularly for music.

? A one kit one pattern Detroit techno track works the same in studio and live. No gap when using the same kit.

I thought they woke up and had the “this time is different” mentality designing the product.

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LOL, I thought they woke up and thought: Let’s give them the old school stuff they are nagging us for 40 years :wink:

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I agree. But it would make sense doing a live performance you’d transition to a new kit right? What a boring night it would be… :wink: Crowd be going… NEW KIT!!

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I think many use at least two similar boxes with prepared tracks and mix them like turntables.

I recorded again and I can confirm that the timing is not affected by this.
The first recording I made was using different patterns with different bpm values, so thats probably why.

Its only an audio gap.
To me, this does not sound like it is related to fx trails or audio buffer.

Here is the audio recording with the exact same pattern and kit copied and pasted to other slots.
I change patterns every 2 bars.

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did you duplicate pattern and switch between duplicate patterns? yes you did, I see. Wow, that must be a bug. Seems not something related to a deliberate design decision.

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yes, duplicated pattern and kit.

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