Roland SP-404 Mk2 (Part 2)

MPC will power an audio interface so I’d imagine no problem with the Tula. That said, I’m not sure the 404 provides power over USB. I’d be happy to be wrong though!

Just saw your reply with the internal battery, that’s perfect then!

Let us know how it does! You can never have too many mics!

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Certainly will do, may be a while yet though, home improvements are afoot…

One last question about the 404 mk2: Say, for example, I have a drone of a couple of minutes as a wav that I load into 404. Is it conceivable that I could take bits out of it on the 404 and save them to different pads, process each of them differently and bake in the effects by resampling, and then during performance blend them and move between them?

Yep, you can copy the og pad to different pads and change start/end point as you please or slice them up with the chop function.

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I think it’s going on the list as a strong pick to be honest. Looks a lot of fun as something to play with away from my desk. Thanks for the help Kegeratorz and NearTao.

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i don’t think this will work on the 404 over USB, the MPC is a USB Host, but the mic and the 404 are both devices. USB only works when a device is connected to a host.

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The MPC One will actually connect to and recognise the MKII, and it appears as an audio interface, but when you select it you get the dreaded sample rate error.

Re. power, I also checked to see if the MKII was interested in powering my JU-06A. It wasn’t, though I was having to use a USB-C to A converter, so that might be a factor.

This is one of the problems I have with USB-C, you used to be able to look at the connector and confidently predict how it would behave, but that’s gone out the window.

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Samples with envelopes inside a mute group not cutting each other, one shot samples being randomly cut off at the end of the bar, random crashes during live performance with patterns and fx, crashes when loading songs in DJ mode, problem with SD card… I mean, currently those doesn’t seem to be like a resampling bug in 4.04 which affected everybody, but I don’t really know. Would be cool if more people on 4.05 tried it and report back.

That’s nice to hear :ok_hand:

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What I was responding to is connecting a USB Mic to the USB on the SP404mk2, that won’t work.

:100: Agree with this.

I don’t think it will but I’d be happy to be wrong! Unfortunately I don’t have anything to test with, nor the correct cables to try firing up the Zoom H1n via USB.

It can’t work. Connecting 2 USB Devices (with no USB Host) won’t do anything. The MPC can be a USB Host (like a computer), the 404 is only a USB Device.

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Gotcha, thanks for clarifying!

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This is absolutely correct. The SP-404 Mk2 draws power, it doesn’t provide it.

A related question is available (and answered) on the Roland website:

SP-404 MK2: Does connecting an AC adaptor make the USB port (Type-C) to supply power to an external device?

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(https://support.roland.com/hc/en-us/articles/9803856570651-SP-404MK2-Does-connecting-an-AC-adaptor-make-the-USB-port-Type-C-to-supply-power-to-an-external-device/subscription.html)

The USB port (Type-C) on the SP-404MK2 does not provide power to an external device.

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Samples with envelopes inside a mute group not muting each other drove me crazy. Now thanks to you I know it’s a bug. Cheers!

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Quick question: Did 404 Vinyl Sim in MK2 always add distortion? I used to have a 404SX and never noticed its vinyl sim was adding distortion, I had had a MK2 as well (later I sold it but after a year or so I bought another one :sweat_smile:) and I never noticed it adding distortion as well. Maybe I’m wrong since it’s been a while, or my ears became more sensitive somehow :smiley:

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Totally beginner with the SP 404… first question…has someone tried to sequence it with a Torso T-1? Is it possible to play some pads chromatically in some banks from the Torso, and then to have others banks to just play each pad individually, as a one shot? all that having each bank on different midi channel? My idea would be to have some banks with some looped drones / synths/ percs…to be played as a one shot sample from the torso, and other banks filled with just synth sampled notes to use to be played chromatically… to improvise some melodies or to play some chords ( like the chromatic mode on the sp 404 itself) … I don’t know if u understand me… :woozy_face: :sweat_smile:

I think the mk2 version has always added distortion and it’s not like that on the SX. Similarly the filter resonance on the standard (top left!) Filter is a lot harsher on the mk2 compared to the SX. I much prefer the SX sound of these! But all the new features/improvements in the mk2 stops me getting upset about it :slight_smile:

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SP has a pretty compressive MIDI implementation with two modes and lots controllable CCs. I think you could accomplish what you want but check the implementation guide.

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Thanks for mentioning the differences in filter resonance. I just went down a little MFX rabbit hole, discovering all of the other effects that include some form of filter with resonance controls. Just search for “resonance” in the manual and wow, there are several of them, and not just obvious ones such as the Super Filter.

Too bad there’s not an SX Filter currently available like there is with the SX Delay, but at least the default Filter + Drive MFX slot can be switched to something else.

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Is it just me or does this filter have a low cut even when fully open? Like I needed to add a little resonance to regain the high end

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I think at its most open the filter is 1600hz so there’s some loss to the high end. I can’t majorly hear the difference but use laptop speakers a lot. My ears aren’t great :slight_smile:

I’ve found setting the resonance to 1 and adding <10 on the drive it can sound ok to quite nice depending on what sounds are going through it and what’s on the other buses. I don’t hate it by any means and have used it quite a lot. But the SX one always sounded more musical/pleasing to my ears.

I think the Super Filter effect is less extreme/harsh. Not sure if it dulls the highs or lows at the most open setting like the main Filter.

I quite like the low pass on the 404 Vinyl Sim but as @boorch mentioned above, the Vinyl Sim also brings distortion which isn’t always wanted!

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