97% of my recent dj mode questions were user error/idiocy. And I’m really getting into it now.
But I did just experience the unit resetting on trying to trigger a cue point. Alongside some other weird one offs there maybe some edge case bugs that require ironing for 100% dj mode reliability.
Looking at YT I just don’t think enough people are using it enough to expose them regularly yet.
That’s good to hear 
I’ve totally neglected it and have had the mk2 for I think nearly 2 years now. I’ve been thinking about putting a little mix together of my beats using it so it’s encouraging to know it’s usable! I’m sure I’ll be doing some idiocy moves too with it when I get around to it 
the only negative of the process is that you have to get the exact bpm of the audio of the files for reliable syncing. and even then on sync the bpm changes to match, but if you press sync again it reverts to og bpm… would be way better when you press sync to “unsync” if it remained at the synced bpm but allowed you to nudge up down a bit for less rigid tracks. currently shifting the bpm changes both synced tracks…
again i may be being an idiot here and there maybe a way around this other than holding bpm until it reaches where you want to get to. (surprised it doesn’t utilise the roland classic “whilst holding up, press down for faster scrolling” vice versa
ultimately it’s forcing you to become really precise with file settings, button presses and key combos, i’m not sure if that’s fun for djing, but once you’re comfortable with their processes and start throwing beats around the smiles do start.
an experiment using a “stems” approach ~ utilizing Pad Mutes, each instrument (keys, guitar, drums) were kept on separate pads during resampling 
nice to be able to change the volumes of instruments! felt like more work up front but once I got used to the flow it was pretty smooth
If you’re resampling from the pattern sequencer, then you can use the copy function to copy specific samples from your pattern into a sample slot (instead of using pad mutes to record those same stems). It guarantees you get perfect loops, and it’s usually a decent time saver
This guys is all about the DJ mode.
a read a bit after this thread on gearspace and felt glad i’m a member here and not there…
Yeah, but according to him, can DJ tracks and gift patterns and launch one shots and ….
yeah you can drop patterns as an extra track!
and access all the sample banks during a mix.
he’s right about it being a semi-performance mode.
(plus midi clock out!)
Yeah l, so me my SP and 8s ….
What I would LOVE is if the 8s and / or SO allowed for configurable MIDI CC so I could use the 8s to also control SP fx params.
my significant other doesn’t like me configuring MIDI CC for some reason either…
This sounds amazing. Could you elaborate a little bit more what’s going on? (I don’t have a SP-404, so it’s difficult to me to get an idea of what’s going on.)
This is an intro for my live performance, recorded with SP404 and a bunch of effects
Fantastic way to start a live performance!
Thank you very much! 
(Long time lurker, first time poster.) I do a fair amount of back-end prep on tracks that I want to use in DJ mode.
Most helpful has been settling on a naming syntax. All my track names follow this format:
BPM.Key.Title (eg: 136-10a-Sandstorm).
Makes it much easier to find what I’m looking for in the heat of the moment, and when a track is loaded in the deck, BPM & Key are visible.
I find myself relying on harmonic mixing more often when using the 404 because the EQing options are limited and not immediately accessible.
On that note, I also set up BUS 1&2 to be parallel so that I can EQ both tracks independently. To keep things simple, BUS 1 is always the left deck and BUS 2 is always the right deck.
I also use a Zoia at the end of chain that has fx sends for delay and reverb, optional bandpass, and a light compressor. Delay subdivisions are midi synced to the current BPM using clock dividers.
DJing on the 404 is fun, but yeah. Prepping tracks so that they are useful in DJ mode is a bit tedious.
thank you! i’ll check it out 
does that include FX as well? I’m not using patterns much, mostly triggering pads and resampling with live manipulation of FX
@MurciaParker it’s 3 tracks - guitar, a vst wurli, and some drums (loaded as samples on the SP). I’m playing almost everything live and capturing it as a sample and then resampling them with SP’s FX (sometimes multiple times). happy to answer any other questions!
I find myself relying on harmonic mixing more often when using the 404 because the EQing options are limited and not immediately accessible.
On that note, I also set up BUS 1&2 to be parallel so that I can EQ both tracks independently. To keep things simple, BUS 1 is always the left deck and BUS 2 is always the right deck.
I read somewhere that you can map the FX to an eternal midi controller when performing with the SP: could this allow for tweaking the eq quickly so you can easily kill the bass on one track, etc?
appreciate this share.
yep, i’m labelling tracks with bpm for sure, it’s important for reminder when loading. hadn’t considered key, but my tracks are mostly atonal anyway
bus 1 & 2 in parallel has been my expectation also, however in dj mode tracks load with their pattern mode bus setting. this is kinda expected but when improvising a track order if you’re not paying attention it’s easy to forget, i’m finding it’s something you constantly have to be vigilant of every time you load a track. easy enough to change (REMAIN + 14/16), but it would be nice to hard set the dj mode channel busses, channel 1 bus1, channel 2 bus 2 seems like the most standard setup but i can see the creative applications with current implementation. just another thing to think about.
this definitely helps, MARK flips between the mixer/fx pages but there’s several button presses to memorize for reliable dynamic FX work during standalone SP DJ mode. with external midi you can access the 5 FX stages immediately and never have to leave the mixer page, it is much more fun and dynamic this way.
i’m finding with some tracks the ext sync will drift as the tracks are of course not directly synced to the clock and will have their own timing subtleties, rather the sp sends a start message and solid clock at the current bpm when start/play is hit.
however here is where your set cue points come back into play in an important way. each time you hit a cue point (or play again) the sp sends another start message so the clock resets and everything tightens up again.
THAT is very cool for live situations. Edit: but may prove annoying if it interrupts a lengthy external sequence….
HI, the audio jack of my android phone is broken and I can’t sample from it. I was wondering if is there a way to be able to sample via USB. I spent 7 EUR in an USB C to USB C cable and didn’t work. It seems that people has used an USB OTG adapter or something to make it work… Have you sampled from android Vis usb? Thanks