Roland P6 Aira Compact sampler

This has also become an issue for the SP404 mk2…

Oh damn! Thanks for letting me know

Have you tried USB-C to USB-C between phone and device. You could sample in this way.

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This is one of the coolest things I’ve ever read… ever :rofl:

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I haven’t seen that. Are you using a USB-C to USB-C cable?

From what I’ve tested over here… I think the latest iPhone firmware (on my iPhone 14 at least) does something to detect the power draw request from the USB device over the iPhone camera kit (then USB -> USB-C) and basically just says “Nope”. I have tried using the powered camera kit as well and it does the same thing. Pretty frustrating as this is a basic behavior change for the iPhone and camera kit, for something that “just worked” before.

At least on the P-6 we can tell it to not draw power, but the SP404 mk2 as far as I know doesn’t have a way to do this.

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Can you transfer samples from a phone or tablet or do you need the transfer app on a computer? I know you can sample in from audio on a phone, but I’m away on a course next week and I’m already taking my work laptop so don’t want to lug around my home one, just not sure if I can easily set up samples while I’m away or if I need to sort some out before I go.

If you hold down A/E while powering on… it works fine for me.

Took a while to mount (you can watch it go through the pads to build the export directory I imagine), but the P-6 mounts as a drive to my iPhone 14, using the camera kit, and a USB to USB-C cable.

latest quick p-6 loop. step-sampled some digital dust - clicks and pops from the waldorf m and an old simple karplus-strong and vcf pinging vcv rack patch recording


really going overboard with these looping envelopes. for me, thats the coolest feature they thought to add

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That’s what I’m trying (I didn’t make that clear) but the phone doesn’t seem to see the P6 as an audio device.

100%

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I spent a bit of time this week selecting my perfect kit from the 808 From Mars sample pack. I like having variations of kicks, snare and hihats and cymbals so this is what I was able to do on the P-6.

I used the digichain web app linked to from this forum to make some sample chains on my computer. The p-6 chops chains onto even pieces so the length of your chain is dictated by your longest sample. You can download evenly spaced chains in the sample rate of your choice using digichain which is really nice.

The some of the kicks had surprisingly long tails that I wanted to keep so that limited me. However I only had 8 kick variations and they sounded great at 14.7kHz so that worked perfectly for the P-6 Mac sample rate. I programme into digichain the exact sample rate the manual said and it transferred perfectly to the P-6 over usb.

For hihats I had 16 variations between open and closed hats. They’re pretty short so if I recall correctly that fit fine in 44.1kHz although maybe I dropped it to 22.05kHz I can’t remember but they sounded great anyway. I had to use digichain to crop some silence or near silence from the end of some of the samples to make things fit.

Snare, 8 variations, full sample rate. No problemo. Same for cymbals.

Then I managed to fit the rest of my kit into a 12 long chain at full sample rate.

Everything was mono. I made sure to put my favourite sample of each type into the first slot so I could use it on the main pads. Mainly for using the same chains on the Digitakt, I tried to group variations so that the difference between each slot and the next was quite subtle, so I could use an LFO on sample slot to add variety in a kind of round robin way.

The end result is a bank where my full drum kit including lots of variations fits into a single bank of six pads. I’d say it’s definitely worth the effort to do this and I was really pleased to see that the sample rates uploaded fine and chop split things perfectly without and gaps or glitches.

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So If I understand correctly your “kits” are all the same type of sound per chain, eg all hats in one chain, all snares in another?

I was wondering if this might be a better approach than having separate kits (eg kick, snare, hat etc on one pad) so I’d be interested to know why you decided this route and if there are any downsides - or do you intend to use both methods?

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FTFY

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what are the looping envelopes?

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I do a mix. The drums that I want variations for go on their own pad, everything else (rim, clave, toms, etc) is in one big chain on the last pad.

The reasons I split out the kick, snare, cymbals and hi-hats onto their own pads are:

  • it lets me have variations for those drums
  • they can be independently muted
  • it’s easier to play and record the main drums when their on their own big pads.

The other way you could do it is split the drums between 3 pads allocated: low, mid, and high. So Kick and toms on low; snare, claps etc on mid; hihats etc on high. That way you’re using fewer pads, but still retain the ability to mute different sections of the drums.

One last thing. Having all your drums together on a single bank, with other sounds on a different bank is a good idea too, as you can use shift to mute an entire bank together which is helpful when you want the drums to all drop out together.

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Use to have one of those :slightly_smiling_face:

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From a purely “does it sound good” comparison I get the P-6 to MPC 60 vibe, but from a technical standpoint the way each gets the job done is so different that to me it feels a bit like an odd topic. I was hoping Ricky would get a bit more into the differences from even just bit depth and sample rates and how it can impact a sample, but the video just didn’t go there.

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To add: Easier control over the pad settings like amp env and filters and sends etc.

Otherwise you’d be trying to plock everything in the sequencer.

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