feel like someone was talking about 3 second sample lengths at one point in tihs thread… here’s the real info:
Yes, 44.1 khz stereo would be a 3 second sample. shrug
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I hadn’t seen an OLED display until I was already a man!
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There goes my dream of sampling perfect guitar and bass loops. At least not stereo 44khz
Consider an SP404mkii. It has a guitar input, looper, and loads of sampling time. You can even use a footswitch.
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That manual is dog water, damn.
This device isn’t interesting to me as an all in one thing, but I am very intrigued by it for use as a granular pad and drone depository that I can work on on the sofa in the evenings, which I can hook up to my DT to give me 48 patches to midi control for transition work and atmospheres.
Unfortunately the documentation is piss poor so I have no idea after a quick read through whether that is feasible or not.
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I had two. Can’t gel with the convoluted workflow. I already have a shot ton of samplers it’s just that I like this little fellow a lot. Especially the step sampling.
I have a M8, OP-Z, MPC1000, OP1-f, MC-707 and 101, LoFI 12 xt.
I guess GAS has become pathological now.
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Imagine putting in on granular playback and have it powered from and placed on a boutique speaker of choice. Use it as room ambience.
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To p-6 owners: any way to clear the sample on pad besides recording a new one on top of it? Manual says nothing like that.
Answering myself (sorry):
Using the Sample Editor soft. It does everything to clear, load, or copy samples.
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Korg Volca Sample is $149 US new. The Aira sampler seems like a better deal at $60 more 
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Ah, page 32. Thanks!!
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No problem 
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Well, yeah, I think everybody knew that 3s is only in “highest” quality. (It feels icky to say SD quality from the 80s is “high end”, it should be normal).
But not everybody does lo-fi or just percussion with samplers, and for many one shots, ambient samples, etc stereo is a huge improvement, especially if used for granular synthesis.
(Yeah I’m defensive. For many the 3s will be fine, I just don’t se that the limit has to be this stark. That’s 12.7 megabyte. In a time where you struggle to find SD cards in 8gb (and usually pay <10€ for 16 or 32 GB)
Heck even TE had 64mb
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yeah, trying to work with recording little phrases from my S-1 last night, it was definitely a limit. it may force me to try composing differently if i want 44.1, or lean into lo-fi.
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TBH the sample time and number of slots does not matter to me on a device of this scope, as @DimensionsTomorrow mentioned earlier in the thread you can use 1 pad for a bunch of drum hits, so that sort of expands beyond the 48 slots in a pragmatic way. I think that working with long samples, or wanting realistic instrument samples is much better handled by a more powerful and expensive machine, that has the UI to make that kind of thing easy.
For me personally I doubt I’d ever use stereo samples in a memory and UI limited device, it seems to handle slices or chains pretty well, so thats ok and useful enough for me.
That said I do think Roland are overdue bringing out a mid/high end sampling groovebox, 707 and 404 both miss the mark as sampling grooveboxes IMHO.
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Ummmm … I kinda think the limited sample time is a positive. Or maybe I’m just rationalising my way though GAS, idk.
I don’t think anyone will be getting this thinking they are getting a cutting edge sampler to load up their whole library of high res material with. There are plenty of options for that.
I mean, it’s really about putting a relatively limited range of carefully chosen sounds on there and working them as far as they can go within the confines of what the box can do. Which is something I’m finding pretty attractive when combined with battery power and backpack size.
I started off ignoring this … well I actually started off 10+ years ago thinking I’d never need a hardware sampler because what’s the point because the computer does it all, but that’s another story. Anyway, I’ve somehow accumulated a bunch of samplers - MPC Live, S3000XL, 404mkii, S2400, Digitakt, and a bunch of apps on my iPad as well as on my desktop, but what this offers is different from all of them. It will or won’t be for you, and probably if you need a 2024 spec box this isn’t the choice.
I’m really trying to come up with reasons not to get this because the consumerist appeal are obvious - more stuff, relatively modest price tag - but I do feel like there’s more to it than that. Or maybe that’s just what I’m telling myself.
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In another sampler climate I would agree.
But there aren’t many samplers that can do longer stereo samples… AND can record. And being portable (either pocketable OR battery powered, I don’t count bring a backpack, a Powerbank and specific manufacturer unsanctioned adapter cable with a voltage converter as portable).
Ko133 and sp404 are the closest ones (and the later has the power problem).
Both more with a beat making layout.
There simply aren’t many samplers that cather to that audience, so seeing this and thinking: if I at least could decide how to use the sampling memor.
It’s the combination of ultra limited memory, that it’s split in those chunks and you can’t decide, and that you seemingly can’t even slice it yourself kinda push this to a more general ‘beatmaking’ usecase, and I’m confident that it’s mostly to keep it from eating into the big brother (404)
If there would be more options (liven for example is also lofi only), then tte situation would be a different one.
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1010music tangerine?
- Configure each pad for stereo or mono recording with the option to synchronize the start and stop times to clock inputs
- Trigger recording via audio level threshold
- Create perfectly sized loops by setting the recording length
- Enable immediate playback after recording for live looping capabilities
- Make recordings up to 4 hours in length
- Resample the master output without patching
- Automate recording of a multi-sample bank via MIDI
- Store recorded samples as WAV files on the micro SD card then remove the card to transfer them to your computer
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It is a nifty device… But for 440€ it doesn’t have that much of physical connectivity.
Imho it’s to touchscreen base and then the comparison to koala comes up. If it would have more physical controls it would be a different topic (I still like it and especially the lemon drop, I just think it’s to close to just a phone)
But you’re right in mentioning it, forgot about it.
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