I probably derailed this topic the most and I apologize. I just looked at the used e25 editions and I see some going cheaper than regular ones lol. 500usd mint condition e25 Digitakt with all the extras. It makes sense to be about 100-200usd more expensive so about 300usd for o.g digis sounds fair sadly
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$375 seems like an excellent value for a buyer when you consider what you get out of a digitakt or a digitone.
Also, Iām not too concerned about topic rails and derails, particularly because the tone here is not as serious as the reaction has been but thatās interesting in itās own right.
If something has legs then let it run, thatās pretty much how I look at it. I donāt get too hung up on āa place for everything and everything in itās placeā type of sentiments unless itās truly warranted.
Not saying that we shouldnāt respect how others feel about it though, just saying for me personally.
Also Iām not so sure an e25 outside of the collectors market will always have the upper hand in regard to functional value because there were a few of them which had the screen lines issue and Iāve never seen a yellow screen digitakt do that, so after the 3 years on the warranty expires if the screen hasnāt failed and been replaced in that time hopefully it never happens, however if it does then itās an additional cost to the owner to repair.
Not the only way to look at it but one thing to factor in. Right now the price should be understandably higher as they are the newest form of the 1 and a special edition, but Iāve seen them for $450 to $475 as well so itās just typical of the resale prices.
Iāve been watching these items on reverb for more than a few months, so I think I have a decent idea of the stuff that gets listed and what moves vs what sits.
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I take issue with the use of the word āreturn.ā Itās not an investment. And in any case, the TR909 and TB303 languished in pawnshops for a couple decades before prices took off. I think your perspective is skewed to think it should hold its value.
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that is quite concerning, in regards to the screen line issues.
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This has probably been said already, but the low resale value of a digitakt mk1 is a good thing.
Newbies & less-than-rich folks should have a choice when buying gear. The low end of the market should be more than Behringer grade crap.
Also, we shouldnāt care so much about depreciation because weāre buying musical instruments that are dependent on technology thatās stuck in a process of endless improvement & iteration. Scarcity rewards speculation and thereās nothing scarce about Elektronās business model.
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I bought Digitakt back then when they came out for 645 eur new. Sold it year after for 500. Bought DT mk1 back again this year for 692eur ( silver one ) new. They are great. But yeah, resale value is lower then it used to be, but meany gear is the same, it is just there is so much going on, and there is river of staff people buy and sell, not Elektron fault. We are consuming more, thats all. I would say resale prices of moste of the gear went down. So think twice when you buy and everything is going to be ok.
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I changed the thread title to reflect the um, dialogue, here in the topic.
Regarding 303s and 909s I did make the same point 4 days ago.
About 4 posts down, word choice aside, I did clarify my position.
I think that whether someone thinks itās a good thing or a bad thing that original digi devices are down to entry level pricing is up to them.
Nice opportunity for buyers and sellers are able to sell, eventually, if they price things in line with others or, conversely, they are able to sell lower than that and feel amazing about themselves and move their items along a little quicker than if they had not. Wow amazing! This is totally different than other resale markets, Iām totally blown away by these revelations!
What an amazing time to be alive!
Sellers shouldnāt worry about the resale price is the sentiment that Iām getting from people however this sentiment does not seem to reflect the market in general, more the vocal minority, and by market I specifically mean the available buying pool as presented by various private and public venues where secondhand musical instruments may be acquired in exchange for the local currency.
As a person who hasnāt made a private sale in about 15 years itās a bit interesting though.
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iām always expecting depreciation, with the benefit that i get to use things while i have them. the only lost benefit is if i hold something that depreciates and that i donāt use. i bought and sold an mc707 for 600 or so a few yrs back, now theyāre 450, that would hurt if it had sat in a cupboard.
also, if everything gets cheaper, thatās fine too.
i have a digitakt 1 that i donāt use. iām curious to have a digitone 1 in the house for a bit. iād like to swap one for the other right now, via a swap or by using money to mediate the swap (thanks to OG inventor of money for all the convenience that has afforded me across the years). theyāre both equally low value, soā¦ fine.
I literally have nothing else to say though so have fun with the topic guys.
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I disagree with the OP. I think that digis are still too expensive.
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Itās cool that it didnāt get recognition at first because of poor design choices. Wasnāt it those design choices that gave itās unique tone and slide behavior which I see as the utility of the 303? Your point still stands in general though, people pay for weird things if we look outside the synth market. The juno hype may be one such thing in the synth world. Good sounds kept getting used and it got a reputation but it wasnāt always expensive on the 2nd hand market. Nowadays there are alternatives so the utility of a HW juno is questionable but people still pay.
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Just think, if the TB-303 had been released after the advent of social media they could have had synthfluencers to sell it and make it a hit. Instead they had to rely on famous musicians.
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Kind of hilarious and apt retitling of the thread
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Fair and a little bit low to some. And now I really neeeeed the silver og DT
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Those silver Elektrons are friggin sweet, if you even care.
Hey @shigginpit has anyone taken the time to just listen and hear you?
Iām listening, and I hear you.
I hear you.
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I only came here after noticing this thread before the change when seeing the retitle actually made me laugh aloud.
When something costs you many hundreds of dollars to buy, itās frustrating if you canāt get as much money back out of it when itās ready but even though we consider these grooveboxes to be as instruments, thereās usually gonna be a 10-20 year dip after theyāre not the latest greatest where they become nearly worthless before the really good ones are revived in value as a collectorās piece.
If they were actually discontinued, that would be the trajectory Iād expect from the mk1 digis but since the digiboxes were manufactured starting less than 10 years ago and have been replaced by a newer (and substantially better) version 2 and there are literally no things about the originals that can be considered better (vs something like electribes where version 1 was agreed to not be as cool by a lot of people) itās hard to see them ever really having revitalized resale value. And honestly, considering the alternatives on the market often have lots of advantages over a digitakt specifically (404 does stereo, 12xt has polyphony, both are more portable, etc) the only arguments for digitakt and digitone still having more value used than those alternatives are for those who need a DAWless hub sequencer as wellā¦ a population that is well known to be willing to spend on cool new hardware and who will understand that the version ii digis are worth saving up to get instead.
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I think the thread title should be āDigi Resale and Me, This Sort of Thing is My Bag Babyā.
But thatās just meā¦
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Support for overbridge on DT1 is finite, as it is on all Elektron boxes. I think thats going to be a big factor in resale price profile in the next few years. Looks like tonverk isnt getting overbridge so I imagine itāll be phased out entirely in the next 5-10 years, probably starting with legacy boxes like DT and DN.
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Oh, behave.
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This thread made me buy a second hand og DT
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