The manual (page 40) says to remove plocks of all tracks while live recording, press and hold [Function] + [No].
This clearly does not work.
It also says Press [NO]+one or several pads to erase plock data on selected tracks in realtime, and that “Sound locks will not be erased”.
However this is exactly the same process for erasing sound locks and they are erased.
WTF manual? Who raised you?
I can remove plock data in real-time by pressing [no] + the related knob (If i happen to know what it is. . )
How can I just clear all parameter data on a given track in one go. I record a filter sweep. It sucks. Delete and start over in realtime while recording.
Umm, thanks for your agreements, however I guess I didn’t explain myself well enough.
I want to hit a button that does an immediate “undo” of what p-lock data was just recorded, while the sequencer is still playing. I can only find ways to hold a knob while erasing, so I have to listen to a bad take all over again and then probably play through a second time to ensure I’ve erased all that data.
Particularly when playing live, I want to be able to erase a take of data right away (cause you know when it’s a bad take ), but I don’t want to ‘reload’ the whole track and lose other p-lock data that were good takes.
I can ‘clear’ the whole track, but that kills the note trigs.
The behaviour I have found - regardless of what the manual states is this:
[No]+[pad] = erase all data (p-lock and note) while playing.
[No]+[knob] = erase p-lock data for that specific parameter while playing.
[No]+[Function] = erase all p-lock data for selected pad while playing.
@TrabanT - does it erase immediately, or do you have to hold it for a full pass of the pattern? Which is how it works for me.
I’m looking for the traditional old “undo” - bad take, hit undo, and start recording again immediately without piling new data on old. Maschine has it, and so do most drum machines, so I can’t imagine it’s missing from the AR, just probably hiding from me. .
Erasing while playing is fine if you don’t mind hearing a bad take two more times before you can start over. . .
you have to post-wipe rather than pre-wipe as you describe (not to my liking either) - far better to just redo right away
there is no one click button - it is what it is I’m afraid
Thanks for clearing that up avantronica. I guess this is one for the “wish list”. It would be a simple feature that would make the AR much better for live tweaking.
simplest solutions ftw ^
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it’s possible to copy a pattern on the fly too, so if you messed up you could direct jump to your ‘last saved/copied buffer’ a bit like reload (much slower) although you have the advantages of various evolved stages of a pattern that could be chained perhaps
That was my next thought, copy and save, so I still have the original pattern, and the one with edits on it saved elsewhere. It’s taken me a number of tries to copy a pattern while in live record mode though! Man it is not intuitive.
Choosing the ‘stop’ button as the ‘paste’ button makes it all too easy to accidentally stop a pattern while performing. I wish they kept the transport controls just for transport - and gave dedicated copy/paste buttons. Or choose some button less detrimental for if you screw it up.
This thread helped tremendously.
There are definitely a few tweaks I would love to see in the next OS release, and they are not new features, but better implementation of the features the manual speaks of.
bullshit elektron logic as usual, have they rectified/simplified 3 years later? Nope. Thank you for sharing your discoveries. I was trying to do a simple undo operation as well. They should hire you to write the manual. Furthermore, once P-lock data has been erased, there is no indication to the user that this has been completed. It’s really hard not to get frustrated with elektron devices, simple functionality that should be easy to execute, especially during live performance, is either non-existent, not documented or requires over-complicated keypresses that should be self-evident and intuitive. The only saving grace of elektron devices is that they sound good; that’s it. An MPC3000 is more user-friendly than this…
And three years later:
From the current user manual:
“To remove the parameter locks of all tracks while LIVE RECORDING mode is active, press and hold
[FUNC] + [NO]. Sound locks will, however, not be erased.”
The manual is still wrong. FUNC + NO erases the P Locks of only the active track. Very confusing for the first time user.
This I think is wrong though, the P Locked Trigs blink, that is the indication that they have been erased (they stop blinking)
Strange, my manual for OS 1.61B states:
“To remove all the parameter locks of the active track while LIVE RECORDING mode is active and the sequencer is running, press and hold [FUNC] + [NO]. All steps reached on the pattern playing will be erased. Sound locks will not be erased.”
Do you use an old manual or am I missing something?
), but I don’t want to ‘reload’ the whole track and lose other p-lock data that were good takes.