Remove paint from OP-1?

I have acquired myself a “cheap” and well used old OG OP-1 to accompany my OP-1 Field. It has a couple of dents in the paint - but works perfectly. And it’s a keeper, for the price I payed.

So I thought I would try to strip it from the gray paint, and make it look like this (picture from: Customized & Refurbished Brushed Aluminum Teenage Engineering OP1 – John Masters Enterprises)

Any advice on how to get to that result? Do I have to remove all components from the chassis, or could it perhaps be done with only uninatallling io board and keyboard/front panel? …as the paint is only on the outside.

Any chemicals that could be recommended? Did anyone else try it?

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From what I know, you need to coat it after. Or otherwise it’ll blacken. I might be mistaken

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It’s unlikely to look like that photo once you have the paint removed, if you’ve never worked with aluminum or chemical paint strippers you should first consider whether or not this is a project that you’re actually willing to take on. I’ve never disassembled an OP-1 but you’ll need to do whatever it takes to isolate the chassis from the rest of the components, so looking at this ifixit page is a good start to see what you’re getting into for disassembly.

Teenage Engineering OP-1 Flex Cable Replacement - iFixit Repair Guide

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it seems like at a minimum, you’ll need to remove some button caps and buttons to reach the screws which hold the board and other components to the chassis, everything that is not the chassis itself will need to come out. Once the aluminum chassis is by itself, you will need good quality nitrile or other chemical resistant gloves to handle things while you’re doing this. You could use klean strip aircraft stripper spray (or other aluminum safe brand) but it’s not magic, and it’s really messy. The paint doesn’t just disappear, it bubbles and turns into goo. You have to scrape it off with something that won’t damage the aluminum and won’t get melted by the chemicals you’ll probably have to do it a couple of times and use a lot of clean rags to ultimately get it to a point where the paint is gone. You’ll need some kind of face and eye protection, preferably a painting type of respirator that has a filter so you aren’t breathing in chemicals or splashing them in your eyes, if you want to do it without those it’s at your own risk and I don’t recommend it.

Once the paint is completely gone, you’ll need to assess the condition of the aluminum, at which point it may need some polishing or other kind of surface leveling, but I don’t recommend using any polishing chemicals at this point. If you will be doing anything, keep it strictly to fine graded abrasives like 0000 steel wool or like 1000 / 1500 / 2000 / 2500 / 3000 / 5000 graded automotive wet dry sandpaper and it’s probably best to do it with water and a little bit of dish soap as a lubricant so you don’t make anything worse as you’re getting to that stage. Watch some videos on youtube about prepping and polishing aluminum to prepare yourself.

Once you’re satisfied with the condition of the bare metal chassis, be aware that unfinished aluminum, even polished to a shine, will start to oxidize in short time. Oxidization is the process of oxygen forming a skin on the outside and looking cloudy, it will not blacken, it is not steel, it will look like this:

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You’ll need to decide if you want to live with that, or be constantly polishing it with chemicals, a chemical aluminum polish will probably damage the plastic parts so you could only do so much of that without risking the assembled parts when it’s back together (like neglecting the face or taping it off I guess). The alternative is if you decide you want to apply a clear coat finish which is what most people who wanted it to last would do at this time.

So, If you decide you want to apply a clear coat finish,

you’ll need to get several things including a wax and tar remover that will prep the surface for paint and remove the oils your hands have gotten on it, because oils from your hands or other grime will cause fish eyes in the clear coat and will look bad,

This is an extreme example of fish eyes in paint:

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this will possibly require re-stripping the whole thing and starting over. You’ll need to pick a 1k or a 2k clear coat, 1k is slow drying and you’ll have to follow proper steps to let coats dry between application. 2k clear has a hardening agent and there is a time limit on how long you have to spray it before it’s worthless inside the can, you have to push a lower module up into the can to start the chemical process. When you spray that, if you spray it cleanly, it will be dry and ready for further processing in like an hour so no waiting but the 2k paint is expensive.

At that point you’ll be looking at it thinking this looks kinda shitty, because sprayed paint of any kind, clear or otherwise, develops orange peel

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This is an extreme example, but be prepared to sand orange peel out of the clear coat and then go through the process of polishing it (again, watch youtube). At that point you’ll have a decent looking piece of metal that will continue to look good and be protected.

Also, if you’re interested, the “brushed finish” like that person is displaying, brushed aluminum will still oxidize over time without a clear coat of some sort, but if you wanted to try for the same brushed effect, here’s a video demonstrating one way to get a “brushed” surface on aluminum which has already polish prepped, using scotchbrite pads and some other basic components.

https://youtu.be/K2LVvAG0FJA?si=R-1snLwf-yL0-zeK

Basically, you really need to decide how committed you are to this idea, and how you are as a person with accepting potentially mediocre results over living with it how it looks now. A factory finish, even with some defects, generally is a lot better than an amateur home refinish.

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@shigginpit I have a lot of experience fixing OP-1’s, and I have faith in the disassembling of it will be okay. But I have zero experience working with aluminium. Was hoping it was as easy as removing the paint, but I hear what you are saying - I’ll reconsider. :sweat_smile:

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I’ve done a fair amount of metal, paint and bodywork, it can be rewarding but it’s a pain in the ass, even if you know what you’re doing. It’s not impossible, just sometimes more trouble than it’s worth.

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I just wrote the guy that made the OP-1 on the image, asking how he did it. He might not want to share it, but if he does, I’ll post it here, with his accept.

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Can you post a picture of the damaged part on the OP-1 which you recently purchased?

Is it only paint chips or is there some indentation of the metal? If the metal has some inclusion (like if there are any shallow dents) once the paint comes off, it will stand out 100x more than with the flat colored paint that is on it. Unless metal is perfectly flat, the light will reflect/refract like crazy from shallow indentations just as much as large ones and it ends up looking wonky.

I think I’d be more likely to leave the paint alone if it’s got any indentation, especially corner dents (like dents along the edge or anything like that). There are methods of straightening flat panels with heat/cold and hammering with a wood block or specially shaped tools, but usually it’s done with the purpose of covering again with some skim-on body filler and level sanded then painted. Any distortion in a shiny metal surface is immediately evident.

It is not so much about the dents being ugly. More about me liking the brushed aluminium look and wanting to try it out, if it seems possible for me to get a good result.

Here are one of 3 paintdents. I don’t think the metal is bend.

Hard to tell from that picture because of the way the paint which has moved away from the metal shows a rounded portion, either the paint cover is very thick or it’s a shallow point of impact showing the shape of the metal has changed. The factory paint is tough, it may even be a powdercoat, but the aluminum metal is rather soft, so while there is no huge dent the metal may still show the impact. If it doesn’t bother you to see something like that, it’s a blemish you might be able to overlook if the overall result is still to your liking.

But if you decide to try it, you will immediately be committed to finishing. I might even buy something which is made of painted aluminum and practice first, just to see what it’s like to try and completely strip paint and polish out or get a brushed effect on aluminum. If that turns out nice, then you’ll feel more confident working on this.

I definitely ruined a few things before I developed any skill with it though. There’s also the cost of supplies to consider.

If you look at the angles, you see some things look out of place going by the shadows and when you follow the bodyline, it’s hard to tell.

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This, even if you think you’ve got everything covered there will always be something going wrong. I’ve come to learn the hard way that knowing how to fix mistakes you make is most important.

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That ‘fish eyes in paint’ finish looks badass, kinda Lovecraftian