That’s fine because I have other options for traditional delays. It’s really the granular and the pitch shifted reverse delays that I’m looking for.
You wouldn’t happen to have an example of the reverse pitch-shifted option on the Particle, would you?
No I don’t unfortunately. It’s on my pedalboard and I’ve never used the editor or any midi functionality 
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Ahahah thanks anyway!
It has
Have you considered a ZOIA?
You would be able to design your dream effect without much limitation…
His question was about the Tensor in this case, which doesn’t have this information in the manual unfortunately.
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Somehow that has never been on my radar because it looks really deep and complex… I like turning knobs, but I don’t have much patience for deep programming and menu diving.
Maybe I got it wrong and it’s actually really easy to use, but just from the looks of it it seems pretty daunting.
[2.2.0.p] - 2022.11.11
Added
- 7 pitch quantization settings.
- 9 new feedback modes, including ping pong and grain repeat.
- By default, feedback changes based on main mode.
- In delay+density mode, post delay feedback is used, so that
decay does not die out as quickly (like Particle V1). - To enable this behavior after updating firmware, do a
factory reset or use web editor to select “Auto” feedback.
- In delay+density mode, post delay feedback is used, so that
- Grain pan and random spread parameters.
- Pan and spread are expression destinations (via web editor).
- Holding ON/[DIV] and adjusting BLEND knob sets spread parameter.
- Pressing PRESET button while holding ON and TAP turns expert mode on/off.
- More I/O configuration options (via web editor or TouchOSC):
- Mono in / mono output
- Mono in / stereo output
- Auto detect mono/stereo input, stereo out (beta)
- “Analog + FX Level” bypass mode, for unity gain analog dry signal.
- LED blinks to indicate trails on startup (on: 4 short, off: 2 long).
- Trails is off by default, because some settings will permanently
freeze the sound, and new users may not know which knob to adust. - To change trails setting, use web editor, TouchOSC, or MIDI CC.
- Trails is off by default, because some settings will permanently
- Preset LEDs indicate mono (o**o) or stereo (oo) input.
- Dump and restore presets via SysEx.
- Preset names.
- Web editor has updated Preset tab that allows you to name,
download, upload, copy, and paste presets. - Web editor updates to support new feedback modes and stereo features.
- Web editor shows expression pedal position.
- TouchOSC (next gen) template with new parameters and configuration settings.
Changed
- Renamed “modeless” configuration setting to “expert mode”.
- Expert mode: parameters are not changed until knobs are moved.
This allows you to step through modes to select parameters. - Expert mode: LFO settings remain active after mode is switched.
- Expert mode: setting PARAM to 50% in DELAY+LFO mode will turn off delay
modulation. - Expert mode: setting PARAM to 0% in PITCH+LFO mode will turn off pitch
modulation. - Expert mode: switching to DELAY+REV does not change grain size.
- When expert mode is turned off, parameters are reset based on current mode.
- LED is white if expert mode is active (cyan if frozen).
Fixed
- Web editor did not work on Linux.
- Presets did not load correctly if density was set in non-density modes.
- Preset LEDs did not work while configuring expression pedal unless pedal was
in bypass.
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Based on your concerns, I wouldn’t recommend it. I found the UI pretty terrible tbh. Tiny screen, lack of knobs, and inscrutable patches without referencing the author”s notes … if they created them. And this coming from someone who enjoys creating Teletype patches that run with Monome grid!! I just didn’t enjoy creating patches on Zoia.
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I got the Particle about a month ago and I couldn’t be happier, especially after the latest massive update!
It allows me to replicate some of my favorite sounds from the Microcosm but with much more fine control, which was exactly what I was looking for.
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I was about to sell my Particle 2, I just was not happy with the results I was getting when using it synced in my chain with mostly synth, but after trying the new, massive update I will keep it for now, the results seem so much more useable. The new functions in the editor make a big difference for me. Well done Red Panda! 
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The sounds coming from the Particle 2 seem wonderful but the additional parameters through Web editor keep me worried.
I want to be able to access most parameters on the pedal, that’s why I would buy a pedal instead of a plugin in the first place… does anyone feel the same? Or are those parameters not so relevant once you initially set them the way you like?
I really want to avoid sitting at my computer programming presets…
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See them as fine tuning, I guess.
Same as ZOIA: no one’s going to program it on stage.
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Thanks! Makes sense. I know myself though. In case you can achieve drastically different sounds with the additional web editor controls, i will be drawn to the desk, because I want all the options. So I guess the pedal is not for me as I want to avoid coming back to the Web editor.
You could of course ignore the editor all together but that doesn’t sit well with me, you know what I mean? I would always feel like I’m missing out on some cool stuff.
Hmm, when I am on Density and and Freeze the Input strangely the Param Knob only does something between 0 and 9 o clock, after that nothing more is happening. had a particle 1 before and I think there was more milage in that setting.
am I the only one whos knob stops working there in density mode mode frozen?
Noone? 
There are new beta firmwares incl Particle v2 at the bottom of support page!
[2.2.1.p build 908] - 2024.05.30
Fixed
- Malformed MIDI SysEx messages could cause pedal to freeze.
- 1/4" MIDI improvements.
- USB MIDI improvements.
https://www.redpandalab.com/downloads
Edit: @Monobear I will update mine and test your case.
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Thanx 
Ok, so I just tested quickly. In DENS mode and FREEZE the CHOP at 7:00, then there is a change with PARAM at least to 3:00. When CHOP increases, the PARAM makes less change.
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