That’s monitoring, checking incoming sound. You can record without monitoring, as long as you can see the REC leds flashing.
The combo of using a track recorder along with a flex on the same track playing it’s buffer is a way of monitoring on the OT…
Your telling the OT, “play in realtime what I’m recording”…
The result is you hear your synth…
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You don’t need to save the recording, you don’t need to assign it to anything. Only after you get this working should you then move on to that next step…
The recording being made is held in ram as the “recording1” (if using track1 for recorder as in the instructions). By assigning this to flex the OT plays the recording immediately from ram even in realtime as the recording is being made, no need to save but you can later… After you’ve figured this out…
If you using track3 to record you’d need to assign “recording3” to track 3 for this to all work, maybe that’s why it’s not working if your assigning “recording1” and using track 3 to record, it won’t work… Hence why I keep saying follow instructions exactly and do nothing else…
Sorry I didn’t mean to offend you. I have been following the instructions, but I guess I don’t understand? The thru track/midi track is where the sound comes from, the sound that I want to record. Track 3 is mentioned in the second instruction of Sezare56, which he modified to fit my project.
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I’m using track 3 and assigned it to R3>recording3, as in Sezares56’ instructions.
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Sorry it’s the internet so you can’t hear the tone of my voice, I’m not offended… It’s all good man… I’d go back to using track1 on a new project and follow the initial instructions… I don’t see any need to use track3 on a test run/verification of process working on a new project…
Just use track 3 when you apply it back to your main project…
Don’t use a thru track, don’t use the mixer, don’t try to save and assign the sample… Just follow the instructions doing absolutely nothing but what they say, anything else you do will only mess you up. Press play, make sure the track isn’t muted. If you can hear your synth it’s working and then we can move on,
Yep, that’s instructions V2
Yeah but on a new project the default is 16 step patterns…
When learning the OT I see the new project simple step procedures as “test runs” or “verification of process” to learn the process without distractions… Too many settings on OT can mess you up when you don’t know what they are yet… Once the “test run” works you go apply it to your main project…
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Make sure when you select the “recording” in the sample slot chooser for flex you press enter, and when you exit to the main page it shows that recording on the flex tracks graphics…
@Open_Mike, I set up a new project with only a midi track for my BSII, and made a random sequence to record. I didn’t set up a Thru track like you said, which also means I can’t monitor the sequence (unless I turn up DIR for channel C+D in the mixer). I then set up the recording as per Sezares56’ instructions, but I don’t get a recording.
The default RLEN is MAX, btw.
That’s so weird man…
The first instructions say rlen 16, I’d use that… You don’t need to use a thru track or the mixer. The sound “should” come out of the flex track.
If your using track1 to record and assign recording1 to a flex machine on track1, that is how you monitor. It will only monitor when you hit play though, but that’s OK for this test run…
This is all to verify your using the right setup and your machine is working, you can use the mixer or a thru later after you’ve tested and verified this simple process…
Does that make sense? A flex machine playing the recording as its recording makes the audio coming into the selected inputs of the recorder come out the OT’s outputs… In other words, it monitors…
Here’s the first instructions again including where it says rlen:16
It should take 30 seconds and just work…
Either your doing something wrong or your machine is faulty…
You could try holding down the record trig and making sure the input c/d is selected, but on a new project they should all be selected by default. It’s OK if the others are selected as long as Src3 is set to “-”, which also is the default for a new project…
The only other thing is make sure recording1 is actually assigned to track one flex, it should read “recording1” on that track on the screen…
It’s never been this hard to get going, honestly I have no idea why. It’s really just a few settings in the recorder setups, two trigs: one on the record track and one on the play track, and pressing play…
You can not even use a midi track for the test, just manually play some sounds into input C during the first pattern cycle immediately after you hit play, and make sure the input c/d light was blinking at the time…
Again just to get this working, then go for whatever after that…
The expected result is that you will here what you play during the first pattern cycle, and then that will begin to loop on the next cycles… (This is because of the one-shot recorder, it will record on the first pass only but the flex track will replay that recording every cycle)
If you do this from a fresh project the one-shot will be armed, if you’ve already played the sequence try rearming the one shot by pressing stop twice quickly(one of the ways). You can verify the one shot is armed by viewing the recorder track and making sure the trig is solid yellow and not blinking. Then try again…
that is similar to what I do and works well. He should go into the audio/AED/slice editor and see if he can hear the sample that was recorded. I had a similar issue until I turned up the gain for the sample in the audio editor.
Okay I got a bit crazy. Maybe you remember a previous topic I opened about sequencing external gear and adding effects to it. You assisted me and apparently I got it working. When I try now to add effects it doesn’t work. I started reading into the topic again, and you specifically said to keep the DIR volume down in the mixer menu. This got me thinking, because I have the DIR volume up to 100 to be able to hear my synths. I was also checking another video about sequencing gear and it leaves the DIR volume down, but you can still hear the synth he is playing. Maybe there’s something wrong with how I sequence my synths? I wouldn’t know what though. Now it really feels like I’ve taken 2 steps back.
There are a ton of ways to use the OT, it won’t help one bit to think about them right now… But since your so curious, the mixer direct allows the sound from the inputs to be sent straight to the outputs. In this particular setup that is not nessecary because you have assigned the recording to a flex machine, which allows the recording to be played as its being made. In this setup if you turn dir up, you will end up with your sound being doubled, it will come through the mixer and also through the flex track… This setup is not the one you’ll end up using on your project probably, or maybe it is, that’s not the point. The point is to get you sampling in a most basic way, this setup will also loop your sample. Once you can do that you can learn all the other ways to do things, there are many because the OT is highly flexible…
You can verify if the OT is recording by having the reorder setup screen visible when you press play… If the one shot is armed and it is indeed recording you’ll see an arrow moving across the top of the bar that is displayed on the bottom of the setup screen. You can also verify the recording is being played by seeing an arrow moving along the bottom of that same bar…
That’s absolutely not nessecary in this situation and can only complicate the matter and make things more confusing for OP… On a new project as long as the input meters are flashing when recording, ideally green, you’ll hear a sound…
There exists multiple ways to monitor with the OT…
-Mixer Dir
-Thru track
-Pickup Machine
-track recorder / flex assigned to recorder buffer
In basic cases you only want to use one method (there are more advanced scenarios where you might want to use more than one and mix between them with a scene)…
For the basic test run we’ve been talking about were using the -track recorder / flex assigned to recorder buffer method… Activating any other method will double up your sound…
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I think the problem must be somewhere else. Firstly I want to thank you for all your explanations, because it has given me a better understanding of how the OT works and why the process is like it is. Also, excuse me for deviating from my own topic from now:
So I went to create another new project and tried to set up my BSII to sequence with the OT. I always follow the steps explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vidFqwqbfxA
Although in order to hear the BSII I put up the DIR of channel C+D, unlike the video explains. So if this is not how it should be, I’m wondering what I’m doing wrong? Does it maybe have to do with a setting on the BSII, or is it because of my midi thru box, which I’m using to hook up multiple synths to the OT?
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