So I was sitting with Attack Magazine’s tutorial about quint- sext- and septuplet swing. Made me think about what the values for such a groove would be in the Elektron sequencer. Since the idea of quintuplets is to cram five notes in to a space where “normally” there would be four 16th notes - we can’t do that on an Elektron sequencer without raising the speed. Which can sometimes be inconvenient or unwanted.
So what I did was that I recorded the different timings on three different midi tracks on my OT to see where the midi note landed and at what value it lies at. The point of all this is to write down the values of the quintuplets so I / You could easily put down a JDilla quintuplet hi hat pattern just as you could in Ableton! In Elektron Original Speed™ ! Yay!
So the first two quintuplets live in the same trig (the first). The other ones have their own little room on the rest of the trigs leading up to the next round. This means that you’d have to choose which of the two first notes get played, you can’t have both. In my opinion you mostly want the down beat if you’re not looking for a flam or something anyways.
Don’t know why I did this but I couldn’t find these exact figures here or anywhere else so I figured it might just help someone sometime to have them written down here
The same could be done for Sextuplets and Septuplets, you would have to record either in passes, taking a note of the value and clearing before recording the next Sextuplet, since they would land on the same trig. Or you could record all the trigs on the same pass if you set your machine to higher speed, but those values would not be correct for Elektron Original Speed™
I’m sure someone with more skill in math than I could figure all these things out in a second of course.
Anyway! I punched in a SUPERSIMPLE (okay, maybe one ghost note in there) Kick, Hihat, Snare Combo on OT using only these quintuplet values stated above to give anyone who’s interested an idea of what it sounds like.
Oh sorry that’s right, I actually punched in a ghost note on the snare there that makes you hear both the downbeat AND the 2nd quintuplet. As any experienced Elektronaut knows you do this by using the trig before the downbeat and putting the microtiming all the way to the right, this effectively puts the trig at the same spot as the following trig (right…?) However, this of course forces you to give up the 4th trig. Can’t have it all!
This method is by the way very useful when dabbling with conditional trigs and you want a trig to happen once and then be replaced by another one - just another tip for anyone who hasn’t caught up on this yet!
Interesting, but I think I prefer quintuplets without swing! I never liked swing settings for sequencers anyway, so I’m biased.
So did you set a normal 16/16 scale and set microtiming to insert quintuplets?
I didn’t understand everything. Maybe a drawing would help.
I made a Take Five test with 10/16 scale without microtiming, worked nicely.
Oh right, I should maybe have noted that. These notes that i wrote above have no swing setting applied. The clock is straight. The scale is 16/16 as well.
I wanted to make a template for a normal elektron sequencer withouth any swing applied, so you could add this swing rhythm to something that is not swung at all.
For some clarification, here are four quintuplet swing trigs. Note that on the first trig you could put it straight like I did here, or you could move it to +19/384 to get the second quintruplet instead.
That’s correct, except for the 2nd quintuplet on the 1st trig. That should be + 5/96, which is only one microstep off, so probably not noticeable anyways.
Also, every quintuplet (except for the first one) has two possible triggers:
