Mmhhh…I have a few days to figure this out.
I saw a YouTube vid about a guy kind of rubbing circles around each pad and across the lines across all pads to kind of “loosen them up” a bit and he said it made a big difference.
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Yeah they’re definitely more sensitive than P2. , I just commented in the P2 vs P3 controller thread about the pads.
Hopefully its something fixable!
Have you used P2 before? If not, there’s definitely someone that’s used MPC and Machine before.
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Is there a video which shows clearly how long does it takes to turn on Push 3 in standalone mode and load a heavy set?
What would you consider a heavy set? I’m asking because depending on your definition, I might be able to check.
Using only native instruments/effects in Live is something new to me so I might have to make something to have a heavy set, or just bounce down everything in an older set.
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I don’t know about a video, but my personal experience is that it takes about 40 seconds to power the unit up in standalone, and about 4-5 seconds to load a project. Granted, my projects generally aren’t that heavy, so someone who has maybe put together an entire set might be able to chime in here.
Heavy set in my case is usually 1GB - 2GB of samples, 50 - 100 audio tracks, 100 - 200 scenes.
That’s pretty standard for 1,5 - 2 hour club live set with 10 - 15 “tunes”. Sometimes smaller sometimes bigger…
Just used a timer…
45 seconds to boot-up.
3 different sets took 18 seconds to load up.
1 set, the shortest was 6 seconds
Another 2 were 9 seconds each.
I’m guessing the difference in time has to do with the number of samples, including sample libraries. Some of my sets have several instances of the Big Band Essentials pack.
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not bad.
yes, usually it takes time to load long wav stems, in my case like 5 - 6 mins with SSD drive and macbook pro
Damn… Yeah, that’s a heavy set. I think I’d like to see if anyone here who’s a performer wants to take a stab? Maybe @jayhosking can answer this one?
I don’t think I have energy to create a set like that from scratch. Might need some drinks to get me through the setup, and I’m not a drinker.
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yeah, no need… those bigger sets usually come out when you prepare a gig and combine different “songs” in one big project, so you add them to one set, each “song” use like 8 tracks, 10 - 20 scenes etc… of course all is rendered to audio to avoid cpu problems…
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My perception right now is that this is faster than using Live.
I still need to confirm by transferring an older project first. I’ll give this a try and compare soon.
On my Mac, the projects and sample content are on separate SSDs.
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good to know, at least not slower!
The set I made had 11 songs, maximum ten stereo parts per song, with many dozens of scenes in total, lots and lots of wavs. No idea what the actual size is on the hard drive. The standalone is slow to boot up, but loading the set wasn’t so long, maybe 20 seconds. I don’t know. Since it’s something I set up at the beginning of the set, it doesn’t really flag my attention. Hope this helps at least a little!
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Nice hack for getting the digital out from the Rode Podmic USB version…
USB-A out from Push to USB-C on the Podmic for power, then use the headphone monitor out from the Podmic into Push.
No volume issues. I still have it on high gain, but then reduce the volume of the headphone monitor amp on the mic to not redline.
Dynamic mics are great choices for uncontrolled environments. They’re all about proximity, so even things like my running A/C weren’t too bad considering I was only seated 5 feet away.
I think I’d most likely use this on the iPad, but it’s good to know I could use this with Push without needing the computer.
As mentioned, I’m interested in the least amount of connections. I just want something simple that works and it’s nice to see that the Podmic can be used via the XLR, or the headphone out, and of course a single USB-C to the iPad is also appreciated.
Mics are always personal choices, but I do prefer the Podmic over the Shure SM7B for me.
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Also I gave the little $80 Critter & Guitari mic another try and it also works just fine.
High Gain on Push, and either Low or High Gain works on the mic, but if it’s on low, you need to be really close for it to pick up anything. As a frame of reference… that A/C was barely picked up by this little condenser mic at either setting, so not bad at all.
*I didn’t add gain in the settings, and I didn’t need to add gain in post. The mic gain (on the mic) was set to max, so plenty of room to add more volume before needing additional effect to boost the recording.
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For the first time today, I noticed that my Push 3 Standalone slowly drains battery and eventually shuts down when connected to my 2021 MacBook Pro 14 Inch M1 Max in controller mode with no power supply connected. When the battery is fully drained, the unit won’t turn on for more than a second or two. I’ve tried using the included Ableton cable, as well as various other USB-C to USB-C cables that are rated for 65W+ of power. Are others having (or still having) the same issue with the standalone version in controller mode not providing enough power over USB-C?
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FYI Because it shows “N/A” for battery level when in controller mode, the easiest way to check if it’s draining the battery when connected to a computer via USB-C only is by periodically switching to Standalone mode and checking the battery status. In my case, checking every ten minutes or so shows that it’s defitely draining the battery, even in controller mode - and yes, it eventually shuts down completely.
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Same here. Support sent me this link to check against:
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I directly compared the P3 now to the launchpad pro mk3. As far as I can judge the P3 needs much more force to trigger than the launchpad - which seems weird. If I should rank in relation to sensitivity/triggering I would say from high to low it is Maschine > Launchpad pro > P3 = MPC L2. Would be great, if somebody could give their opinion on this (or how it is supposed to be).