the whole push 3 stand alone experience is just incredible…from using this thing as a controller for the last half year to finally getting the upgrade kit and untether this is just the beginning of a long journey…
besides using quite a few of @Ess m4l devices (fors.fm), an honorable mention needs to go to @Dibek for his macro variation tool 
Yeah, I never use my Push 3 in standalone now that the honey moon phase is over. Too big to move to the couch or really be portable anywhere else, and there’s too many things that I normally use in Ableton that I can’t access on it. Hopefully it’ll get there but a lot of the problems are things that existed on Push 2 for years prior, but didn’t matter as much because you always had your computer.
For Live performance purposes standalone can make sense… but also you’d still probably be better off with a laptop. Being able to load up your full set on a standalone device would be cool you could easily craft your live set template on Ableton and then load it into Push 3. That’s cool, I wish I could do that with Octatrack (just have a larger, global view of everything when building a live set).
As it is it’s probably got more quirks than Maschine did when it went standalone. Both of them tried entering that space but didn’t really fully commit to the idea. Maschine+ is still missing things like being able to flatten tracks to audio with a click of a button (unless that got added to the recent update). That’s pretty crucial for me and MPC has that (thankfully push does as well). But both Maschine and MPC were always basically just classic MPCs being powered by a computer, so they never needed to do all the stuff Ableton does.
Push 3 is a great device but like I said, they really just need to commit to it a bit more. If someone wasn’t already into Ableton I’d probably recommend something else first, even though the Push 3 is definitely the best sounding device of its two main competitors (Maschine+ and MPC).
I would love to try it, but it costs 1899€ and I already have Ableton Live 12 insane.
Tnx for the reply. I had hapax for a while. Sold it on…You make salient points on the benefits of each. I’m happier with the push based on the fact I use Ableton in a hybrid setup with hardware. Push seems like a great bridge for the two ways of working. It ain’t perfect but it’s getting better and better.
Okay now I want examples of some of your worst (and best?) auto generated titles.
Push standalone drum racks. Anyone know how to turn off Auto Select? I’m triggering the drum rack cells from an external sequencer and each cell is selected when it receives an external midi note. Essentially the rack cells are just bouncing around depending on which note the external sequencer triggers. I can’t select an empty cell or edit a cell being played.
On the computer there’s a button that turns this feature off. I can’t find it for the SA version.
Thanks!
Am I missing where in the manual it tells you how to create effects racks? I tried the same method for grouping tracks but that doesn’t work.
Any help appreciated…
My least favourite ‘The Rotunded Dimension’. Maybe Im the dumb one and just don’t understand it’s meaning. Every other track has the word ‘Zone’ or ‘Layer’. I liked one called ‘Brash Waters’ but no idea what that could mean.
Not had any actually funny ones yet. Waiting for it to spit out something offensive hah.
Awesome! I´m glad it is useful, thanks for the video!
fyi: The device should work fine from the get go, without using “refresh”.
So far I’ve been more successful when using it as a kind of “from 0 to 25%” kind of groovebox. I really wish there was an easy way to transfer (and more importantly organize) your favorites/collections so you had access to all your go-to devices with the default settings you’re used to, but even without it, I find that it’s quick enough to get an idea going. At around 25%, I tend to start the computer to do some quick fixes, maybe cleaning up some midi data, adding some eq/compression and the kind of stuff I’m missing from standalone. Then I can go back to working in standalone with a more cleaned up embryo and polish it further. Or at that point I may already have started with an arrangement and the work of the Push as a standalone device is already complete.
I like the fluidity of this process where you seamlessly transition from a standalone groovebox experience to working in the DAW.
I definitely agree that they should work on making things better. I mainly miss a better favorites organizer so I can reach for all the audio effects and presets quickly. Even just accessing Collections on the Push is a 4-6 click/nudge/twist action when it should be a one-click action. Hoping they’ll rethink this and consider a groovebox-first approach to it rather than primarily thinking of it as a live performance device to be used on stage for already finished live sets.
To quickly set performance macros right on the device would also be dope. Having to click through to each track and only control that one track at a time is torture coming from the MPC workflow.
Yes, without a doubt this thing sounds incredible and makes me feel kind of miserable sketching a song on the MPC or the Syntakt. In the end, great sounds and effects inspire me more than anything else so it’s hard to put the Push against any other groovebox in that respect. It really is standing on its own - in standalone. 
Yes I rarely use standalone now either now the honey moon phase is over, it’s just too limiting and I always find I need to do something in controller mode and switching between the mode is far from painless, takes some time and kills the vibe a bit.
I also don’t like how there is no access to pushs hard drive in controller mode, so any samples I have on push 3 are only available in standalone mode, there is no access by usb c or a. Working between the modes is quite annoying.
To me standalone makes little sense in Push 3,
especially considering you’re paying 1k extra for some almost obsolete hardware and losing functionalities compared to the controller + laptop…
Not a great deal if you ask me.
Battery is almost useless due to the system running so hot and being so power inefficient…
Also due to the rather high latency in standalone I tend to believe that the software running under the hood is not Linux native.
Yes I tend to agree if I could return the standalone part I think I would, it’s really not there at the moment and a grand for a reduced feature version of live with an hour’s battery life is not a good deal.
I’m on the beta, and I updated my Push to the 2.0 beta. I thought it would then be appropriate to update my Live to the Live 12 beta, but when I run it, it fails to authorize. At launch, I click “Authorize with ableton.com,” it opens my account in Firefox, where the “Communicating with Live” then reports it has successively authorized. The app itself, however, reports, “No valid license found in server response.”
Of course there’s no license for 12 beta in my Ableton account, and the file comes from Centercode. Per Ableton’s support info, I’ve also tried creating an Options.txt file in my ~/Library/Preferences/Ableton/Live 12.0b25/ folder, but that didn’t work. Is there some trick to getting the Live 12 beta authorized on Mac?
Yes there is. Go to the page where you would download the Live Beta installer and look for the registration key that you have to add to your ableton account.
I could be wrong but I don’t think there’s a way to do this on standalone - I think you have to do it in Live. If it’s possible, I would love an answer to this
Did you expect it to mirror Lives insane complexity in a Push/groovebox format? Thats sounds pretty strange to me
id instead compare functionality and cost to similar grooveboxes, and its actually second to none in a lot of areas (in any price range)
I would like it to function pretty close to live but all the cool live stuff isn’t on it and doesn’t look like it ever will. There no adjusting warp markers, very basic midi editing, can’t set up macros, can’t group device or set up drum rack sends. A lot of very basic core live functionality is not available and working between 2 different versions of live and saving things on the push is becoming very annoying.
Feature wise as standalone groove box I think it’s pretty poor if you compare it to the rs7000, the push can only dream of having the true standalone functionality of that machine, at the moment push doesn’t even have program change.
Bumping this question if anyone has an answer. Thanks!