Push 3 - Audio interfaces / Digital Mixers

It’s not in the push settings. You just have to make sure both devices are set to the same sample rate and your ADAT expander is set to take the clock from its ADAT input (ie from the Push)

I have had the RME UCX II for a while. Got the Push, used it for a week, and BAM – realized I have the perfect combo on my desk! It really, well, expands the Push in such a nice way.

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I am curious: Has anyone being able to test if the Push 3 Standalone works with an
Allen & Heath ZED-R16? As far as the manual goes the Zed-16R should be able to be used as
an ADAT expander …

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Anyone tried connecting 2 Adat interfaces to Push? Adat 2 out to adat 1 in, adat 1 out to push 3 Adat in?

I have two 18i20 connected in X configuration. Ins to outs. Outs to ins and it works great with two devices. Mac sees 16 ports. iPad sees 16 ports without changing cables. Wonder how this setup would work with Push 3.

As far as I understand ADAT it only allows 8 channels @48k or four channels @96. And Push only have one ADAT in…

Really hoping class compliant support comes sooner rather than later. Don’t want to spend money on an adat interface when I already have a bevy of class compliant interfaces and devices.

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yep, I’m surprised they didn’t lead with this, it’s not like most of their user base have adats lying around

I can see why it frustrates people that it doesn’t just accept class compliant hardware, but from a support and development standpoint, it’s a smart move.

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Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if once they do start supporting class-compliant USB, they begin by certifying specific, popular models before they open the floodgates to everything on the market.

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Isn’t the whole point of class compliance that it’s device agnostic and thus (in theory) easier to implement?

that’s what I thought too but it sounds like the fam is bout to learn me somethin :grin:

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There’s always gonna be some odd ball interfaces out there. But this is a rev 1.0 device. They have bigger fish to fry getting more core stuff in there before answering endless emails of “my interface is class compliant but….” or replying endlessly with “have you tried a different hub?”

Look at the MPC. Interfaces didn’t come for a while, and even still, the internet is flooded with spreadsheets of which interfaces work and do not work even though they are class compliant and “meet the sampling rate”.

Ableton’s doesn’t need to support anything that comes after delivering audio to a headphone jack and ADAT ports. ADAT has been a “settled” standard for quite a while and everyone handles it pretty much exactly the same.

They don’t have to worry about maintaining their specific usb class compliant driver at the moment and just concentrate on make the standalone live app itself better.

(and my pessimistic view of companies now, it’s probably a feature of the push4 they wanna sell you in a couple years :upside_down_face:)

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So much this. That “feature” taught everyone about the fiction of the phrase “class compliance.” (You’re going to need a bigger asterix :laughing:).

Thinking of picking up an Evo SP8 but thinking about it, the Evo 16 is the same price and I could use it as an interface.

Is there any reason to buy the SP8 over the EVo16?

I don’t think the EVO 16 is usable as a standalone ADAT expander.

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You can set EVO16 as a slave ADAT

Slave clock doesn’t mean it will route its analog inputs/outputs to its ADAT outputs/inputs. The Evo SP8 does.

I am thinking of doing the following:

I already have a RME Digiface USB with 3x ADAT expanders, with a total of 24 analog inputs and 16 analog outputs.

If I’m in the studio, I can connect the Push 3 Standalone to the remaining ADAT input and output and use TotalMix to route any of the analog inputs/outputs to/from the Push 3. When I leave the studio, I will connect a compact interface like the Motu Ultralite MK5 to the Push 3 so I can connect more instruments.

I would be mostly in the studio, trying out different combinations of different external instruments combined with the Push. When I finally decided on a good setup to use live, I can just disconnect those instruments and leave all cables in the studio, bring them to another location, and reconnect them but with the Motu interface instead. If I keep the same instruments on the same input numbers, I think I don’t even have to change anything in the routing settings of the Ableton project that is inside the Push 3 standalone? The only thing that may be different is the converter/interface latency, but this is probably within 1 ms, so not really a big deal.

I think this must be perfectly possible, but I may have overlooked something?

Also, when switching from a standalone project to Ableton on my desktop in my studio (or vice versa), I would have to change the audio outputs of the External Instrument devices (since I now use the Digiface as audio interface instead of Push 3), but I can easily do that by creating presets for each instrument for both Standalone and Studio modes.

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Yes you’re right. That now reminds me why I went with the 18i20’s last year. You can only do some (limited) routing to ADAT on EVO16 using cue mixes from what I remember and they need to be setup on the software.

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I am using a Motu16A and Focusrite OctoPre. The Motu has 16 analog in & outs and two pairs of ADAT.

The Focusrite is connected to ADAT1 the Push-Standalone to ADAT2.

The Motu has a routing software that allows to use it like a digital patchbay. I can save routing-presets and change them on the device directly - so no computer needed.

This setup works very well and I had no trouble at all. Also changing back to the computer is easy.

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