Hello, does anybody know if I can use the Push 2 as a controller for the OT without the need of a computer much like a Launchpad Pro MK3?
I’m looking for a pad-based and velocity-sensitive controller to trigger the OT and also having the Push to use with Ableton but on separate occasions…
Any ideas?
Thank you!!!
I don’t think Push can be used without a computer. You could still use it with OT but I’m pretty sure it would have to pass through Ableton (or Bitwig) first. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
I have an OT and just got a Push 2.
I suppose I could test the Push 2 with my iPad and see if anything happens. My hypothesis is the test will result in epic fail but who knows.
If it won’t work with my iPad it probably won’t work with OT,.
you’ll need something to ‘host’ the Push 2…
(note: your host needs to support usb 2.0)
yes, it will work as a standard usb midi class compliant device
of course, you will not get anything on the display , and the pads will not light up.
you will simply get note on/off from the pads …
(and a variety of cc from the switches and the encoders)
the encoders send out relative CC , so will be no use on the Octatrack without some processing.
really the upshot is, you can get it to work but really its not that useful - imho
however, if you connect it to something like a rPI, then you write code to drive the push2 , and do something more useful.
(this is how Ive written support for Orac on the rPI for the Push2)
btw: someone was working on some kind of solution
but not sure if the project has done much, since it was a while ago…
Awesome, thanks!
So you would go with something more like a Launchpad Pro mk3??
Ok, results of my little testing with iPad:
Started Sugar Bytes Drum Computer. could not find MIDI input settings. 
Why did I buy this app again? Can’t even use a MIDI controller with it?
Started AUM, loaded Ruismaker Noir. Ok, 2 pads out of the the entire Push 2 grid trigger something. That’s it. The rest don’t do squat. 
Ejected Noir, loaded Ruismaker FM. 6 pads out of the entire grid trigger something. Hey, 6 pads out of 64 is an improvement, right? 
The Push 2 behaves just as reported by technobear. Pads don’t light up. Display shows nothing but “Push” and the Ableton logo. Ipad complains that Push 2 draws too much power, even though Push 2 has to be powered by its own AC adapter, and won’t accept it as a controller until I plug a cable into the power port of the USB3 Camera Connector.
Because you can’t see a darn thing in Push 2 when connected to iPad, let alone be able to tell which pad will trigger an actual sound and which will just trigger dead silence, I don’t recommend trying to force Push to be your OT controller. Personally, I’m gonna lean on my Keystep 37 and MIDI Fighter Twister (ok, with iPad as USB Host) for Octatrack control and just use Push 2 for Ableton.
the midi messages are detailed in the dev manual
as i said, the pads are note messages, everything else are cc’s
but yeah, its not designed to be used like this to drive instruments, rather to be interpreted by something and then sent onwards 
@technoir , yeah the launchpad pro is designed to be used standalone.
if you just want note inputs it should work well…
just be careful if you want to control anything else on the octatrack (e.g. track levels, mute/solo) , as then you need to be able to send specific CC or notes on different channels - so you’ll need to see if whatever you get can be configured to send the necessary messages.