Hello I need your help. 1 month ago I bought Rytm MK2 and Four MK2. I used to only produce with Ableton but producing analogue is more intuitive. I’m not getting anywhere with producing a psytrance bassline in either Rytm or Four. Is there a trick or tips for me as a beginner that is easy to understand?
Thank you! 
don’t have the A4 but on rytm psy-style kicks are hard to achieve with synthesis only, you can resample couple of times, with band reject to get rid of the low mid resonance a bit, then high pass with some resonance boost somewhere around ~30-ish, to make it a bit cleaner and more lowend emphasis, and then use lowpass to control the highs with envelope to get a nice click.
you can also utilize the master distortion and compressor at certain point to give punch and control the tail…
but, personally I’d grab ready to go samples and use them. way faster…
for bass though you can use either DVCA or SY CHIP for nice sawtooth or blend with square wave, then in addition to filter envelope you can add some nice pluck with lfo.
in general, it won’t be “tight” as in DAW, there’s only so much you can do, so depending on how loose you want it to be I’d go with samples…
you can also resample the A4 into the rytm and free up the voices on the A4 and get more consistent sound.
would love to hear what you achieve though, didn’t really try doing some psy style on my rytm…
I’ll try doing some samples later, maybe will come up with a patch…
This really old thread might help:
I guess you know the basics, but this is A4 specific (for the bass line at least).
I am not sure anyone has had super success synthesising a cracking psy kick from the Rytm (but I haven’t tried with the 1.70 update). It’s often been a case of reverting to using a sample to get the proper sounding click/thwack/thump but that’s fine IMO - it doesn’t have to be analogue, it’s more about the sequencing possibilities and live tweaking with these boxes.
Thank you
well, I guess with more dedication and proper trig length adjustments you can achieve better results, but I have only so much patience to listen to rolling kick bass these days 
I still think that synthesizing and recording one shots for nice processing would be way better then using just synthesis for this genere, the controls are pretty limited for clean kick/bass… maybe it’s just me though, I just love the rytm dirty any don’t go look for cleaner sweetspots
no processing, just normalized, sounds like ass, but all synthesized except very low single wave saw sample that’s probably doing more damage then good
…ooooo…in psytrance, kik and bass need to be pretty precise in how they interact with each other…rytm might be a bad choice for this…while the a4 can do all sorts of intresting stuff but will never deliver such sharp transients for kiks either…and ur basslines need to duck, which is also quite a challenge with this setup…
u might wanna forget synth kiks alltogether for psytrance…so rytm better plays a sample only here…
no matter what, a psytrance kik can’t go superlow, needs a precise transient and must be pretty short to feel right…same goes for any 16th bass patterns beyond 140 bpm…
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I made this track only with Ableton and Serum.
Thank you for your help i will work on
that’s more like hard techno w psytrance style bass, either way for these types of tight tracks I’d go for samples, I can’t remember what he’s called but there was one guy playing two rytms fast type of techno, pretty sure all samples just by looking and the placement of sounds on tracks…
can’t remember the video with two rytms but this is the guy
It is very time-consuming to combine several genres using Ableton. electron is clearer (if you understand it). I will practice and share the results with you.
gave it another go, very little processing with bx_masterdesk and limiter, all synthesis no samples, imo the DVCO is a hidden gem for psy kicks, use the bend to shape the body, lfo to pitch for click and band reject filter with amp to shape the overall sound, with some gain staging and tiny bit of distortion, maybe even resampling and adding nice umph with hipass or peak resonance you can create very nice kicks, as for bass, well, this is simple SY CHIP’s one of the saw oscillators, but imo you can take it real far with layering couple of DVCO with CHIP/RAW and resampling for consistency, although both DVCO and RAW have reset osc mode so maybe it’s good enough. I would still resample to reduce track usage though… maybe even resample patterns and create variations only by switching sample slots/positions…
This slaps. Great sound.
thanks! it should be better if you’d multitrack the whole thing but yeah, even with stereo outs you can do great stuff