Program change to Prophet rev 2 from Digitakt

AUX · November 12, 2019, 5:51pm

Ok it’s working.

I saved the pattern, opened another pattern and changed the synth patch in the SRC section, then pattern changed back and it worked,

It’s the only thing I did differently that I am aware of.

Thanks so much for your help on this mate!

PeterHanes · November 12, 2019, 5:55pm

The DT probably only sends the message if its value is different from the previous value sent.

AUX · November 12, 2019, 6:04pm

It also needs a trig otherwise it wont change the patch.

jefones · November 12, 2019, 7:08pm

Because that option is for keeping patterns in sync across multiple machines. It auto sends program changes according to pattern number when on.

AUX · November 13, 2019, 10:18am

Just to be clear, turning PROG CHANG off is for controlling multiple external units?

I’ve got 8 ext midi machines I am trying to sequence from DIGI

PeterHanes · November 13, 2019, 1:18pm

No. Activating PROG CH SEND in the DT’s SETTINGS > MIDI CONFIG > SYNC menu is for sending out Program Change messages every time the pattern changes. It facilitates systems where there are multiple instruments that need to change their patterns or programs at the same time.

It has nothing to do with sending MIDI note messages from the DT’s MIDI sequencer tracks.

AUX · November 13, 2019, 1:47pm

Hey Peter.

I’m struggling to understand how this would work.

Each of those 8 external midi machines would need their own channel so they can be sequenced independently of each other.

In this mode you can either send out a PROG CHANG message on 1 channel [1-16] or the auto channel.

For each of those machines to receive the PROG CHANG message they would all have to be on the same midi channel, making independant sequencing impossible?

I must be missing something here

PeterHanes · November 13, 2019, 1:51pm

Perhaps that:

PeterHanes:

I think that you might be a bit confused between the two ways that the Digitakt can send Program Change (PC) messages.

One way is to have the DT automatically send a Program Change message whenever it moves to a different pattern. You set up this method by:

activating PROG CH SEND in the DT’s SETTINGS > MIDI CONFIG > SYNC menu;

setting the appropriate MIDI channel number for PROGRAM CH OUT CH in the DT’s SETTINGS > MIDI CONFIG > CHANNELS menu.

You don’t need to set anything in the DT’s MIDI sequencer tracks to use the above method.

The second way is to send PC messages from the DT’s MIDI tracks by setting a value for PROG in the SRC page of a MIDI sequencer track. In this case the PROG CH SEND in the SETTINGS menu should be deactivated.

Which method do you want to use?

AUX · November 13, 2019, 2:18pm

Sorry Peter I’m really trying here. This kind of programming on an MPC is effortless.

PROG CH SEND - Enabled
PROG CH OUT CH - 16
MIDI CHANNELS A-H -16 in channel menu

MIDI A SRC CH9 [sequencing]
MIDI B SRC CH10 etc…

Not achieving pattern change this way?

PeterHanes · November 13, 2019, 2:23pm

Let’s take it one step at a time. Which method do you want to use:

Automatic sending of Program Change message on one MIDI channel whenever DT changes pattern ,
or
Individual Program Change messages sent on various channels as programmed by you?

AUX · November 13, 2019, 2:25pm

second option so long as all channels change at the same time.

PeterHanes · November 13, 2019, 2:27pm

OK. So:

And the next clarification is:

Pattern change on what instrument?

AUX · November 13, 2019, 2:29pm

Ok. I had the second way running perfectly, except one synth alway lagged by a decent amount, which is why I was trying the first method.

The issue probably sits with that particular synth.

AUX · November 13, 2019, 2:32pm

Maybe a synth clock division issue out of sync with the Digi sequencer?

I might go back to my original settings again and try and resolve the lagging issue as everything else seems to be working.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP!

PeterHanes · November 13, 2019, 2:44pm

Which particular synth? What precisely are the symptoms?