Preset Pool vs Sample Pool

PRESET AND KIT MENU [DIGITAKT II]

Hey guys, Im having the hardest time understanding how to manage and add sounds in the Digitakt II. It’s super confusing to me. When I add sounds from the so called +Drive to the preset pool I cant find it in the pool, nothing is there. When I select a bank A-H nothing is there.

When I select sounds from the manage list or the load option it says copied, copied where???
Then there are samples in the sample menu completely separate from the preset pool, Where do those sounds come from? Do those banks correspond with the preset pool banks?

PLEASE HELP!!!
If someone can peel back the layers to this topic, you would really be doing a service to the community. Explain to me like a 5 year old, I would like to get the most out of this beast of a sampler.

Much appreciated folks :heart:

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Same situation here. After trying to understand, I now simply load samples, assign them to tracks and get after it (ignoring the sample pool entirely). It’s my understanding that any modulations made (once a sample has been assigned to a track) will automatically become an entry in the sound pool.

I don’t make any effort to save anything to the sound pool and yet randomly named files appear. I tried to dive in and couldn’t make sense of these (apparently) automatically created files, so I gave up. I’ve read posts attempting to explain, and watched videos doing the same, but it’s all a bunch of gibberish.

I’ve spent countless hours RTFM and watching YT tutorials to learn the OGDT and I’m very adept with the instrument. I could care less how and where the individualized sounds get saved. I’ve got hours worth of patterns with modulated tracks and a bunch of weird crap in the sound pool.

If anyone finds this post to be ignorant, how about a simple explanation rather than a downvote?

What is a ‘downvote’?

Yeah!!! It’s the weirdest thing. So, you just scroll through the +Drive via the function + preset pool knob, saving whatever sounds you like to the pads/trigs and save the pattern or project?

Quick question, as we seem to be experiencing the same issue. The sample pool banks A-H accessed through rotary knob D, is this browser different from the preset and kit browsers?

Also, the manual continues to say press [Preset/Kit] to access the browser, that button does not exist on the Digitakt II. Am I missing something?

I love this drum machine but the work flow needs some attention.

I think a downvote lowers the rank of your thread. This gives your thread less priority on the forum.

BTW- I have yet to see any explanation of this on the web. I have seen a few trying to talk about it on the Digitakt I but nothing on the Digitakt II. SMH!!

It is a bit confusing but once you wrap your head around it, it should stick.

Try watching this video from here as he does a good job at explaining samples, presets, and the preset pool.

Honestly, you can never use presets and be perfectly happy with your Digitakt but they are helpful when you want to start reusing things you’ve made in other projects.

Thanks for sending this. I did see this but maybe I missed something. I agree, I am ready to skip the whole pool thing and just do a workaround. As you stated, it is good when you want to start reusing elements. I am a very organized producer, I like to know where everything is so when I need it, I can go straight to it.

Preset/kit is the button to the right of func. One of the earliest pages of the manual has picture of the DT2 with explanations of all the buttons.

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One thing that might help: there are a ton of options (most users will pick one or two) and there are some terms of art for the different features, which can be confusing, and one of which has just changed. Maybe take another look through the manual and the project structure diagram with these terms in mind:

Sample: actual samples, loaded from +Drive into RAM, Sample RAM is ~1028 slots across 8 Banks (to aid navigating with knob D in the SRC page).

Preset (used to be Sound): sample plus all machine, filter, LFO, etc settings. These are saved on a different level from samples, in slots that can also be organized and filter by banks.

confusing point: FN + Level from most places is the Preset Browser (equivalent to Preset > Load), rather than the Preset Pool as labeled in grey.

Preset Pool: a secondary, smaller set of Presets. This is a set of up to 128 presets that can be sound-locked (TRIG + LVL from the grid sequencer page) or played in with the Preset Pool Trigs (FUNC + Down x 3 to select Preset Pool Trigs).

Maybe this helps?

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Hell yeah!!! This helps a lot. Your breakdown is concise and easy to digest. I am going to study your reply with the manual open and the Digitakt II on. With all of those sources, I should get a grasp on it. As you mentioned, what makes it confusing is so many ways to do the same thing. You just have to pick a flow and go with that :).

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"I’ve spent countless hours RTFM and watching YT tutorials to learn the OGDT and I’m very adept with the instrument. I could care less how and where the individualized sounds get saved. I’ve got hours worth of patterns with modulated tracks and a bunch of weird crap in the sound pool.

If anyone finds this post to be ignorant, how about a simple explanation rather than a downvote?"

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OK, so now I find my own post to be ignorant and I downvoted it. Surprised noone trashed me for it. Thank Elektronauts for simple kindness.

I made a nice CY ride today and plan on using it occasionally so I saved it to the sound pool. It’s nice that Elektron was thoughtful enough to include a MINE category. I saved it at #100 just to make sure I know what’s mine.

Hey guys please I need some help here !
What is the most efficient way in Digitakt 2 to turn samples uploaded to Drive+ into presets that I can load into the Pool, so I can quickly browse them using FUNC + Level/Data? ( when im trying to look for the presets it says +drive has no presets)

Hi, the easiest and only way is to start by loading any sample to any track via the sample slot which corresponds to encoder D on the source page.

Make any changes you want to make to your original sample (trimming, effects, pitch etc.) or if it’s fine how it is then change nothing. Once you’re satisfied with what you hear, go into the import / export menu and select export. Select a save location and then name it, you can also (at this point) add search tags if you intend to search by sample type later, otherwise skip that screen. Then save.

Once the presets are created and named, you can go back to the import / export menu and select “manage”. A list of your presets will then display, and you will select the ones you want to add to the preset pool. Any item on the list which you select will get a checkmark next to it to confirm the action. Now press the right directional arrow to open the sidebar menu and select “copy to”. From the next list choose preset pool. It will then say (X number) presets copied.

That is the easiest and only way to turn a sample into a preset and then add it to the pool.

A preset is a container file, like a .zip, a .rar or a .mkv file. It holds the sample and any settings you’ve associated with that sample. It is unique to the original sample, but it is not technically a sample or an audio file, which is why this frustrating process is necessary to put your sample into a “preset” container and then be able to access it from the pool. It is literally not a sample which is why you have to make a preset out of the sample in order to be able to use it in the pool.

The manual does not explain this part very well, but that’s how it is.

Also, in my opinion, though the preset browser is more convenient to access, it is more beneficial to the user to build the habit of going to the source page and loading samples to the sample slot using encoder D rather than loading presets (which have settings stored with them) unless your intent is to work with audio that already has settings attached (like you modified a sample and the modified version is the one that you want to work with, not the original).

The main advantage and primary use for presets should be sound locking them to individual steps when you want to use several different samples on 1 track. This was essential on the first generation digi boxes due to limited track availability and the knowledge is quickly being lost due to having more tracks on the digi 2’s, however it’s important to understand the differences in how you’d use them and why you would use one and not the other.

If you want a dry, bare sample with just it’s original audio and not the preset portion of it, just use the sample slot on the source page. That’s my opinion.

Good luck

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That was fast!
Thank you so much for the reply, and for being there to help with my questions and doubts. I really appreciate it!

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Np problem. Let me know if it doesn’t make sense when you try it out. It’s only complicated at first, eventually you’ll get used to the process.