Powering A4

The Analog Four does not work with the ripcord USB 5V to DC 12V cable. It switches on but no sound. I guess you knew that already :wink:

The A4 PSU is 2.5A, the ripcord delivers up to 2.4A. But maybe there’s more to that like different types of DC like real DC and switched DC.

mine works with my 12v ripcord, and doesn’t work with my birdcord 🤷

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Oh, hope at last, will try the other ripcord cable then and another battery back. :smiley:

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Do you have A4 mk1 or mk2?

What battery do you have?

Personally, I wouldn’t use a 5-12v cable now that batteries and adaptor cables that do PD exist.

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mk1.
tbh I reckon it’s my powerbank causes the issues. dt2 works with birdcord, A4 mk1 used to work with my birdcord but doesn’t now, ripcord works with it tho. rytm mk2 doesn’t work with ripcord. no idea what’s goin on lol.

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Your powerbank specs look right to me. I’d expect that to work with the birdcord for all your Elektrons. Weird that it doesn’t.

yea weird. it’s quite new too. only a handful of power cycles. could be an issue with the birdcord :bird:

Possibly. It’s one of the little ā€œPD 12vā€ adaptors, yeah?

Possibly also the battery is lying about its power ratings. I only have experience with a couple of batteries, and not encountered the problem you have so I’m guessing from this point.

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yea usbC pd12 mini birdcord thingy

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Gotcha. Mine has worked fine with AR, OT, A4, Syntakt. I’ve seen very few, or zero, bad reports of them on here (I don’t hang out in many other places online). So my trust goes to Birdcord initially. Contrast with Ripcord extenders and step-up cables, which seem to have a 50/50 hit rate (taking a casual average from comments on here, plus my own experience with them).

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I have that one (edit: a very similar one), too. Didn’t work. Even tried 65W power adapter with USB (for charging Mac), didn’t work. The battery in the video has 3A output.

But given the fact that you got A4 mk1 working with battery packs, I will try further.

Could you elaborate on that? :slight_smile:

You mean sth. like this?
~~https://amzn.eu/d/0j7QXgbW~~

Edit: read about birdcord and PD voltage conversion in powerbank. Nice concept. Going to order one. Thanks a lot :slight_smile:

Cool.

Yeah, the pre-PD way was to have either:

  • a power bank that you could control to output 12V/2A
  • OR a step-up cable that went from 5v-12v

But if you have the step-up cable, you need a power supply/battery that will also up its power output, so the transformed voltage could also pull the same amperage. And most of them don’t do that; so most of those battery + 5v-12v cable solutions don’t work. The voltage would match, but the supply couldn’t deliver any more power so the amperage dropped.

With PD, the device you want to power (like a groovebox or a torch or whatever) ā€œtellsā€ the power supply what voltage it wants (or you use an adaptor like the Birdcord PD-12V that does this on behalf of devices which don’t already have PD), and the power supply does the dance with watts and amps to match automatically.

(someone who understands it better can tell me where I’m going wrong)

So today, I just wouldn’t bother messing with anything other than a PD source and a device or adaptor to go with it because the protocol will just make everything work without me having to think too hard about it. And I’m lazy and don’t like thinking too hard.

You do need a battery/power supply that supports the voltage you need. Anker brand typically don’t support the 12v that Elektrons need.

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You need these…
https://myvolts.com/StepUpPower

works great, AR/A4 draws between 15-20 W each

old ripcords are OFFICIALLY not strong enough for AR/A4

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A bunch. Among them this one, which explains itself on the back: 12V only 1.5A :open_mouth::grimacing: (Really only similar, def not the same as the one of @pidgeo

(However, the ripcord also didn’t work with the 65W power outlet as it shouldn’t officially as stated above)

Will see if I can find a shipping address here for the birdcord.

:+1:t2:

Probably not enough to get the Rytm through boot-up.

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looks interesting - shame it gets in the way of the USB in its neatest orientation


so clearly this works (anecdotally), but if i was buying i’d probably check with maker that there’s a typo or whether there are 2.5mm variants, it may just be an error on this page

Then it raises a question about whether it would be reliably engaged with a 2.1mm pin on e.g. a Behringer Analog … it’s possible to use this way (anecdotally), but it can’t be quite as reliable as the correct snug fit barrel

but a 2.1mm barrel will not work with a 2.5mm pin !


edit : this seems conclusive, but it raises the issue of 2.1mm devices and or ordering the correct one - just be aware it may not be a solution for multiple devices (without an adaptor)

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A recent purchase that has worked for me so far.

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