Panning

Hey folks,

Having trouble getting panning to work with my OT.

I have the stereo L+R cable coming out of the OTs Main out into my Audio Interface (plugged into both inputs) and my AI connected to my Mac (via USB).

I used Logic Pro to master my tracks and the issue is that the Balance parameter only makes the track volume decrease as opposed to panning it left or right in my headphones.

I test it thru Logic where my headphones are plugged into the Mac.

Is Balance even supposed to be used for panning?

Thanks in advance

Cheers

Are these inputs panned hard left and hard right on your audio interface or in your DAW?

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That could be a problem with soundcard settings.
You can try headphones on different stage of the chain to see where the problem occurs.

Sort of. A balance contrl isn’t exactly a panner, although with a mono recording it will work the same way. But as you increase or decrease the balance what you’re actually doing is lowering the level of one channel and raising the level of the other, which means that if, for example, you’re playing a sampled drum loop where the dry drums are panned hard left and the full wet reverb is panned hard right, if you turn the balance all the way to 127 you won’t have the full stereo sample panned hard right, you’ll have just the right channel - the reverb. Which is different from using two hard panned mono channels on a mixer for a stereo image, where adjusting the pan on each channel affects the width of the stereo image and its location in the stereo field, but doesn’t actually change the level of either channel.

Balance controls are the standard for stereo channels on mixers so this isn’t unusual behavior, but sometimes it can take you by surprise. Like, for example, a couple weeks ago I was using the LFO to modulate the balance on a thru machine that had a mono source, but I was also recording the output of the thru track with a pickup mahcine. Normally I keep the thru machine center panned, and the pickup machine is panned to the side with its track balance, so the live input is centered and the PUM is panned - because the pickup machine is recording a center panned mono signal its balance control works like a panner, but because I had the (mono) input signal on the thru track paning across the stereo field and then being recorded (in stereo) by the pickup machine, with the pickup machine’s balance being adjusted to the right, as the sound moved to the left in the actual record buffer, it got quieter in the output of the PUM track because adjusting the balance to the right wasn’t panning the stereo image right, it was lowering the level of the left channel and raising the level of the right channel.

Not panned in the DAW or audio interface.

How should audio interface be setup? Turn knob toward ‘DAW’ or ‘Input’?

I thought this was another negative comment about the sound quality

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What is the make and model of your audio interface and which inputs are you plugged into? I am not a Logic user so I can’t speak to any Logic-specific settings.

Steinberg UR22.

I got the knob turned all the way to DAW (opposite is Input)

I got the two stereo TRS cables from the OTs Main Out going into the 1 and 2 of the Steinberg…

You sure there’s no phase cancelling due to plugging the L cable to R in, etc?

I have a UR44, its bigger brother. Just laying down for a minute so I’ll post a pic in a sec. I use the DSP Mix Fx software that comes with it in Windows. I link the two inputs and hard pan them in that software. Then select that same pair in my DAW.

And, while I don’t use Logic, if I didn’t pan them like this in the Steinberg software, I believe Ableton has a way to split the panning up on a stereo channel. It’s just not the default setting and I do this in the audio interface software.

Ableton - Split Pan Mode

Thx fam.

Yea I think I need to do something with the channel strips in Logic I think thats what I need to figure out…

If you’re going to set this in Logic, this article from Apple might be helpful.

Good luck!

Figured it out! Wow was so simple — when I create the track in Logic I just selectrd input 1 + 2 for the Audio Interface and now it pans well.

I used to select Input 1 only

Thanks for your help

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