Overhub/Overbridge Issue

Hi,

I’ve had problems as well. But didn’t really jump on the train until 1.10. So I’ve had nothing to compare with. And (to be honest) was a bit lazy to be bothered with de-bugging.

This is both nice to know - and a bit of a shame. I really need the instruments on a hub - or I’ll have no usb ports left. But cool if it’s a known issue - and they’re working on it.

From the other side of the coin, i’ve had no problems running Ableton + MOTU + TB3 + TR8 + A4 + RTYM all from a Macbook Pro 2014 & Overhub.

Maybe i’m just lucky, but I didn’t think the issue was widespread?

I’m running OB 1.10 & an Overhub with an A4 and all is fine.

I’m on a PC and not a Mac though.

Hi, folks,

i want to give you my experience with a MacBook Pro (mid 14) and USB driven AUDIO/Midi devices, e.g. ELEKTRON and VIRUS.

For years my troubling device was my Virus TI2 with the Virus Control Plugin, the TI is a great sounding machine, but act like a diva with the VC Plugin (and SPDIF ) I spend days of testing configurations with USB HUBs (spa. USB 2.0 MTT’s) … always trouble…

Now i gone to EL Capitan and suddenly the Virus Control Diva is very calm. and running… but OVERBRIDGE is now the Diva …
spez. with OVERHUB and !BOTH AK AND AR!
e.g. mostly only one ist streaming at the same time with overbridge.

After reading this topic, i changed my setup:

My USB Driven Devices, spez. the Virus TI now running well with OVERDUB, connected to an USB 3.0 Port, using all ports !

The AK and AR running over the USB 2.0 MTT Hub connected to the USB 2.0 port of the my Thunderbolt Display… normal USB 2.0 … this was the Hub for my TI ! … and all works.

Maybe Elektron should ask the guys from ACCESS, how they solved the AUDIO/MIDI-USB Connection.

Nice Detail: the support from access said over years, access will not change their integration till APPLE handle their BUG inside their USB integration!
I suppose, they did :wink:

excuse my bad english, i am native german.
and i learned a new word:

fellow [url=“http://www.linguee.de/englisch-deutsch/uebersetzung/sufferer.html”]sufferer

love 2 all
Darius

Hey thank you for contacting Elektron support about this and posting their response.
I’ve been having some flaky issues here and there with Overhub and I was wondering what was going on. I’ve been working through them but this fix might resolve some frustration. Thanks again!

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i just noticed that using a rhythm on one hub and a a4 on the other on my macbook air is doing the trick. it seems that there are just problem with 2 electron devices on one hub. seems to work well when other devices are on the hub.
hope this is stable now

@yentz I for sure would contact Elektron support to see if they have any recommended solutions. The USB hub thing is quite a shock and a bummer (though now it makes sense with the problems I’ve been having since v1.10 came out). Especially since Elektron charges $65US for their own branded device.
I certainly wouldn’t back-rev my gear unless they told me to, that seems scary!

I completely redid my system going from mavericks to el captain yesterday.
The system worked fine yesterday but is completely unusable today.
Going back to yosemite and hope to get a stable install there.
If not I am not sure what to do.
I contacted elektron with another issue before. The customer support wasn’t really helpful so I am not going this route again.
If there is no other way I will bin over bridge and go analogue again.
I really had it with shitty computer problems and configuration - actually this is one of the reasons i got back to hardware. It will be a substantial investment to get more ad converters and a clock generator but then I might sell some electron stuff and get a jomox instead of the ar and add a mfb device.
Maybe they will come up with a solution at musikmesse. If not I am probably going to sell. I want to make music in my very limited time and not trying to solve computer problems.
A pitty as I really started liking the machines. But as there is no way to downgrade the os and the current situation isn’t useable at all there is no other way :frowning:

funny thing is that everything worked perfect with 1.0 - and i can’t go back.

The whole thing just sucks. Really tempted to buy a ticket for frankfurt and visit the electron booth with a couple of big bad friends

I guess this still isn’t fixed as i spent a few hours trying to get my rytm and A4 to work with overbridge using the overhub.
Took the A4 out of the hub and plugged it straight into mac and it works.

I know its an old thread but i thought it may help others with same issues.

Yeah, it’s a bummer. Spend 70 quid for a “special” hub which won’t won’t as advertised with 2 machines connected.

Will have to sell that crap as I already own a hub without flashy elektron logo which works fine.

…is Overhub working now?

For me, yes - it’s been working fine since the 1.1 update. I still use it with USB2 connector rather USB3 because of initial issues I had with it, don’t know if that’s necessary, but if it ain’t broke…

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So overhub working fine and giving all i/o for 2+ overbridge devices in ob 1.15?

Thinking about buying one now since I have my AH. I will need an USB hub anyway to sort out USB cable lenght issues, so might as well go with the overhub in case I end up buying more ob enabled gear in the future.

It seems to be OK in my setup - A4, AR, AH. I also run my Komplete Kontrol S61 through it.

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Am I to understand that having multiple Electron devices (in this case, the Digitakt and Digitone) connected to the Elektron Overhub is not supported??? Currently, when I do this on my macOS 10.14.6 system and use one of them as the system audio output, the audio will stop after some minutes and I have to disconnect/power-off one of the devices (for example, when using the Digitone as the system audio output, I have to turn off the Digitakt and then audio starts playing again). I can leave the Digitone running on the Overhub (plus a bunch of other things) without any problems—the problem only happens when I add a second Overbridge device to the hub. Anyone else experiencing this? Overbridge version 2.0.19.2 beta, Digitakt firmware 1.11, Digitone firmware 1.21.

That functionality IS supported by OB.

Then I guess it’s a bug. As described: If I have both the Digitakt 1.11 and Digitone 1.21 connected to the Overhub which is then connected to my MacBook Air 11 running macOS 10.14.2 with Overbridge 2.0.19.2 beta, I can use the Digitone as the system audio output for a short while until audio suddenly stops (often after only a few minutes). The devices still appear in the audio output drop-down menu (clicking on the Speaker icon in the toolbar), but the audio simple appears to not be streaming anymore. This does not happen if I have only one of the devices connected/powered-on—in that case, audio output works very reliably. I can reproduce this same issue with a different USB 3.0 hub, but I’m rather surprised it happens as well with Elektron’s own Overhub.

For isolation have you tried having them both hooked up, but to different USB ports? And without hubs hooked up?

Well, it’s not an issue with the Overhub hardware? That likely has well enough throughput, the bug would be in the drivers and/or firmware.

I was previously using AH+Digitone+Rytm on the same hub on pc with no issues, I’ve got the latest Mojave updates and will try the Heat + Digitone together, but I use my Babyface for the main outs, not Elektron boxes.

I broke my overhub :frowning:

When I put the tie on the back cable I heard a crack, and that was it.

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Now I know what others meant about the connector being flimsy. Side to side it’s fine, but any pressure on the top or bottom can cause problems.

What is a good alternative to overhub? It was working great too.

Edit - Just found this thread: Good USB hubs? (Now that OB has been out for a minute)

Best regards,

Gino