OT MK2 + MPC Live Killer combo!

Sure. Up to 3.5hours samples in Static slots !
One shot trigs or FIRST trig condition.

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Aw, theyre seductive. Nervously stuttery at first, but after setting the values (exploring range i assume helped get rid of stutter) I’ve been savoring the timbral influences. They are very sturdy, have no give and feel much more like Yamaha digital drums. No button like wiggle.

While setting the Q-link parameters, my unit took the learn action to school, and began a predictive algirithm of completion, self-assigning remaining parameters to other knob functions. The mapping is sugarsmacks tight! Each pad can host its own settings (contributing to extra build troubles and possibly some confusion).

Finally, after the mapping is achieved, the functionality is toggled by the little geometry notation button R or W, with write allowing knob performance. Record the performance while red W is toggled, and green r is to read the influences. This setting may also be placed to off.

I think you meant that message for someone else but it’s good to know :slight_smile:

My wife gifted me an Octatrack two days ago and after playing around with it for a while I am now looking for reasons not to sell my MPC1000 lol…I do understand why people compare these machines with both being samplers and all, but man, the Octatrack is an entirely different creature!! So good!!! I use my Digitakt for drums, the Octatrack for melodic and harmonic sample playback and manipulation (in realtime yey, take that MPC :stuck_out_tongue:) and an A4 for pads and synth fx. The Octatrack also sequences a NYX and an Erebus. The Digitakt’s MIDI tracks are set to sequence the first eight tracks of the MPC, so anything I chop up on those can be directly sequenced from the Takt, which is important to me, because I haven’t found a way to make the MPC sequencer feel hands-on enough for a live setting (building / improvising a tune in real-time).

I appreciate the MPC for its old school production vibe and it is fun to build 90s style hip hop beats on it, but for live use / live improvisation, little things such as no sequence switching after overdub/record, no on-the-fly lengthening of a track’s length, no independent track lengths within a sequence, and only two Q Link sliders (and no way to address more Q Links via MIDI) really let it down. Also, using a 32GB CF card, the load times and lag when navigating through folders sometimes can be silly. And the menu diving of course takes away from the spontaneity, although that get’s better with improved muscle memory.

Given that I am using the Digitakt to sequence the MPC I wonder if I’d be better off with an SP404 as sample repository & playback device to replace the MPC…

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Some things to consider

•linear sequencing, longer patterns than 4 bars without chaining
•smoother cc automation
•crossfade looping
•drumpads
•Grid editing
•individual outputs until overbridge
•automating your crossfader smoothly
•stereo threshold sampling
•selecting A,B,C or D with a pedal is nice

Also you can use independent track lengths with simult sequence if that’s any good to you, it’s definitely no octatrack when it comes to poly rythms but it’s something. I used my MPC for the first time the other day after months of using maschine and I completely forgot how slow the loading times were for reading the card, it sucked. Got a soft spot for it still though. If you’ve only had OT 2 days you have so much to discover with it, I’d say hold onto MPC till you’ve settled with it, never know what ways you might use both. Granted I would prefer a live now though, lose some features but gain many

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I bought an MPC 1000 again after testing Octatrack, because of some above reasons, and especially polyphony, midi overdub. Program changes can also be problematic with OT, and even with LIVE, unless it was updated.

But I was using OT only, so I sold this heavy MPC 1000 and bought an little MPC 500 just in case.

I really didn’t like the very similar SP555. No midi control except midi notes!

Check Beatsqueezer too :

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Thanks!! From your list, I’m familiar with most positives except the crossfade looping and the smooth crossfader automation… I’ll google these now! JJOS is like a treasure island, something useful/a gem of functionality could be hiding just behind the next submenu :slight_smile:

I hear you re the softspot, I have one for mine too…the look and feel of it, jamming out on its pads, slicing with it etc…I’m just amazed at how different the Octatrack is in terms of what it can do and how it feels, just two different creatures. :slight_smile:

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Ah!! I’ve been pestering the maker of the Beatsqueezer on Facebook in regular intervals, if he makes another batch I’ll be quick to get one, cool little device!! :slight_smile:

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You can record crossfader movements* with Mpc with a much higher resolution than OT (steps only).
*Or other knobs, buttons…

I guess you talk about fade in / out recording with OT? Fades curves are not well implemented. It kind of works with Pickups only, with minimum values. Higher values just add silence and don’t change curves.

I don’t know about MPCs…

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Yeah what sezare said, you can record your cross fader with the MPC and send it back to OT. Technically you can do it on OT alone but then you’re limited to 16 steps. Further to that if you know the pattern to pad feature, that works with a sequence of just CC even if there’s no notes so you can record/program a cross fader movement and then slice it to pads then record that in a sequence. it’s a fun way to sequence controlled fader movements

For crossfade looping, load a sample then in the trim page turn loop on, on the top bar next to your start point you can select your loop mode as either forward, ALTER(forwards and backwards) or XFADE. Set it to crosfade and you can set how the loop fades in and out so you can make loops smoother

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Awesome @jb, thank you so much, I‘ll give this a try!!! :slight_smile:

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I have a much mire linear style also, I’m used to using analog and lfo’s and mods to create, rather than instrument style performing to create. After some sculpting of machine functionality, I’ve become more enamored with the Live

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OOOOOOOOO, trying this

this works on the mk1 aswell right?

I’m waiting for my MPC live 2 to arrive Thursday because of this thread. Thank you.

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because of this thread…
i’m testing this setup out. lol

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how are you using the Deluge and how do you like it?

I heard its linux. Windows would be nice if we could use 3rd party plugins!

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