Been thinking of using my OTmkII as a mixer for AR+A4. I had been using a mix8.
Frequently hear OT is a good mixer. I have two thru tracks + 2 neighbour tracks + tr8 as a master. I love the effects, the scenes, all that. BUT, with a mixer, I can chage the levels of two tracks at the same time. Turn knob one left, knob two right, one track gets quieter, t’other gets louder.
On A4 I can do this, with the mix page.
Can I do this on OT? AFAICT I need to tap the track button to change the track level…
As @Fin25 says, not really. Perhaps some creative use of scenes to adjust relative volume for balancing but that’s just a potential workaround/‘hack’ rather than what you to describe. The sort of requirement that has people reaching for the Faderfox MIDI devices, for me it’s the Launchpad Pro Mk3 with the 8 pad ‘columns’ acting as velocity-sensitive faders.
Use Components and create a custom mode! Note the CC for track level and you can easily set a vertical fader for each channel the OT tracks receive on. The velocity sensitivity is LOVELY! Hard tap for quick changes, soft for gradual fades.
I’ll try it. never got around to using components before. Thanks
EDIT: I like this idea a lot now, since I can also add some of the effects levels too. Two track levels, and then four EQ levels (what worries me most is dialing down highs/lows as need for the sound system.)
I’m sure I’ve mentioned the Launch Control option to you before… another point though- track/level wise, all you’d be controlling from the OT would be the master levels of the A4/AR, right? When I’ve messed with the AR/A4/OT combo like this, I found myself using the main master output volumes on the AR and A4 quite a bit, so there’s that option to keep it basic and hands on.
I want to test this out myself at some point, I was thinking of setting the Novation LCXL up for just 8 channels, 4 for the AR (I’d probably go Kick, Snare, Hats, everything else), then 4 for the A4’s 4 tracks.
That would give you volume, pan, mute…then either 2 fx sends or filter cutoff/resonance control per channel. That’s a lot of performance under your hands without having to change anything, and it enables you to keep the AR/A4 more fixed to the other Perf modes you’d want.
Oh yeah. I think I remember. I never got around to it.
TBF, I’m not sure about the OT at all…I got it in trade, and I barely use it. As a mixer…I feel like my mixer is adequate (instant access to levels, basic EQ, smaller). I guess if I want minimal the mixer is simpler/less to carry. And later if I want more, there is the OT (+ controller).
But part of me thinks sell it for some effects…anyway. That is a tangent. I think I understand where I am at with OT as a mixer…and for my immediate needs, I’m going to use a mixer
Would love to use a midi controller with OT, but have found that when using faders I’m unable to change the values between patterns without them “jumping” to where the fader or knob is at, which is especially jarrings with track levels. EX. On pattern 1, you’ve just used a fader to slowly fade a track out, now switch to pattern 2, the level will jump to the saved value for that pattern, but your fader is at 0, so you cannot edit the level of that track without it cutting to 0 at least momentarily.
Has anyone found a workaround for this? For example, a setting where the parameter is not altered until the midi controller knob or fader crosses the “current” parameter value first?
it’s covered in-depth elsewhere but essentially OT can transmit it’s settings settings back to a MIDI controller via CC61 I believe - would think this works best with controllers with endless encoders or the aforementioned Launchpad etc but could be wrong
haha, the GAS…kick the crap out of the launchpad first maybe? lovely being able to hop between a mixer page like I described and another with 64 slots, slices, fx mapped etc. But yeah, can’t deny the call
Given “only” 16 knobs on the Twister for 8 tracks, and track level is one of them, what other parameter have you found useful to map?
Do you use a lot of paging / secondary knob functions?
Do you map the same controls for all tracks, or do you dedicate more knobs to certain tracks?
I have an OT and two Twisters. I’ve been meaning to make a mapping like this, but life isn’t giving me much time to fiddle around on synths nowadays
I’m sure I’ve mentioned the Launch Control option to you before… another point though- track/level wise, all you’d be controlling from the OT would be the master levels of the A4/AR, right? When I’ve messed with the AR/A4/OT combo like this, I found myself using the main master output volumes on the AR and A4 quite a bit, so there’s that option to keep it basic and hands on.
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