OT and MPC Live MIDI connection problems

Hi Elektronauts,

I’m trying connecting the OT, DN, MPC Live via MIDI but i’m getting some problems

The OT is used as drum machine, DN as melodic stuff generator, MPC Live as extra everything

I want to use the OT as as Master MIDI Clock and Transport.
I just want to send the Transport from OT, but when i plug the cables the right way i think, only the stop button works.
As the MPC Live still have some sync problems when receiving MIDI, but when he sends MIDI it have less problems, is possible do this config.

I’ve all setting up this way

What i want to do is something like this : SEND TRANSPORT MIDI MESSAGE FROM OT

The schema i have is something like this
MPC Live (Master MIDI Clock : Midi Out A) Send MIDI to (Midi In) OT
MPC Live (Master MIDI Clock : Midi Out B) Send MIDI to (Midi In) DN
OT (MIDI Transport : Midi Out) Transport MIDI Message Only to (Midi In 1) MPC Live

The setup i have is something like this
OT MIDI SETUP
Transport
Send : to MPC Live
Receive : Off

Clock
Send : Off
Receive : On (from MPC Live)

Program Change Send and Receive : Off

DN MIDI SETUP
Clock Receive : On (from MPC Live)
Clock Send : Off
Program Change Send and Receive : Off

MPC Live MIDI SETUP
Receive : MIDI Clock
Receive MMC : Yes

Send : MIDI Clock
Send MMC : Yes
MTC Frame Rate : 30 drop
Start Time : 0: 0: 0: 0
Send Port 1 : Midi Out A
Send Port 2 : Midi Out B

The problem is that we can’t select the MIDI config in MPC Live like in OT

I think you can activate MIDI Clock Send in the OT.
Did you set the correct midi channels? In the OT you see the midi channel on the track when you are in midi mode. Check the midi channel in the Live.
Do you want to control the DN also from MPC Live? If not you could change the Hardware setup: OT out - > MPC in || MPC thru - > DN in

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System real time messages are channel independant

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The settings seem somewhat backwards to me, ''twas going to help but it’s to much for this moment, I’ll get back to it unless someone gets there first…

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i’ve made a error describing what i want and what is the best option

I wanted to use the OT as a Master MIDI Clock and Transport but is this case i’ve some midi lag because when the MPC Live receive MIDI Clock he stays always off.

My best option is this cenario is setting the MPC Live as the Master Clock because when he sends MIDI Clock, the machine are better synced than when he receives MIDI Clock.
I use the MIDI Port A to send MIDI to OT and the MIDI Port B to send MIDI to the DN

My question is if i can set up the OT to receive only the MIDI Clock from the MPC Live (MIDI master) and Sent the Transport MIDI message to the MPC Live

So you want MPC to generate clock but you want to use the OT play button to start everything? Might work, might not. :thinking:

Does MPC have a setting to receive transport? If so I’d enable that and disable receive clock. If clock and transport are tied together it probably won’t work as a device will wait for a clock signal, if that’s the case it would explain why stop works but start doesn’t. You shouldn’t need to send/receive MCC so I’d disable that, might transport be in that section to enable instead of MCC?

Would help if someone with a Live chimed in… :slight_smile:

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Clock signal is not supposed to be interrupted by stop/start/continue messages. Midi clock always runs (unless there’s some weird and unconventional implementation)

Then it’s not possible to dissociate Midi clock and Transport in the MPC, so, being set as master, it’ll ignore incoming System Real Time messages

Yes but that doesn’t solve your problem because the issue is on the MPC side

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I dont think you can do it like that. Why not just keep it simple and let the MPC live handle both MIDI clock master as well as transport? What would you really gain by having it any other way?

And yes, MPC live used to be a bad MIDI clock slave, but I thought this had been fixed by the OS updates? I do know the looper doesn’t work when MIDI clock slaved tho.

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Just press play on MPC definitely seems easiest… :slight_smile:

MPC Live MIDI SETUP Options

Receive : Off, MIDI Clock, MTC or Ableton Link
Receive MMC : Yes or Not

Send : Off, MIDI Clock or MTC (MIDI Time Code)
Send MMC : Yes or Not

MTC Frame Rate : 24, 25, 30 drop or 30 non-drop
Start Time : 0: 0: 0: 0
Send Port 1 or Send Port 2 or Send Port 3 or Send Port 4

Yes unfortunately… the MPC Live is not so friendly gear for Jamming as the Octatrack

Well, you just press the M’s play button then move over to the O…

Seems weird there’s no separate transport option… Can anyone confirm? I don’t want to read the manual…

@pinup57 By “tied together” I meant no separate toggle for clock and transport, just one option. On some devices such as Octatrack, if you enable receive clock and receive transport and then proceed to send it transport without clock nothing will happen, it waits for a clock signal then times out. If you disable receive clock but have receive transport checked, it will play with just transport…

If MPC behaves this way and there’s no separate toggles, you can’t get around it without sending it clock, but OP wants it to be master…

But anyway for OP just press Play on the MPC and control everything else from OT… :slight_smile:

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OT and DN receives clock from MPC Live

MPC supports MMC transport commands, but not sure if OT sends em…

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As someones said, the best option is use the MPC Live as the MIDI master, we like or not!

I also want to link my Love and my Octa. But i want to play VST’s from MPC while simultaneously twiddling the Octas knobs with fx and lfo’s responding in tandem. Essentially, i want both machines to function as if a single instrument. Is this possible, or wanting too much?

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Yes, I aim to spread love with my Octa as well… :rofl:

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Octalove

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