Sorry to derail the chat (fwiw I’ve had a couple of crashes, nothing serious but then I haven’t loaded samples other than sampling in myself…)
Midi cc question, in the extended list floating around it says 85 and 86 are scene & project, can anyone explain what those do? Also the wondering if there might be midi control for pattern/scene launch, lfo rate and amount in future.
You can definitely print out a proto board. It’s probably expensive but… doable
I’m also an engineer but work in Ops at my day job. We are the last line of defense so I completely understand about the financial impact.
This is a great point. It does go a long way with the end user. Just come on to a forum hold an AMA and no one would have to ask another question. They could just be directed there. Listen we are all passionate about our TE gear or gear in general. It’s a hard situation. I just want some accountability. I have been following this very closely . I saw a recent firmware just released and came here to see if it’s improved to where I feel comfortable with the purchase. When I read it wasn’t the case I got a little angry.
All this being said, the OPxy is really a wonderful piece of kit that will eventually get to the place it needs to get to.
Everything is there for it to get there. TE just needs to dial it in, and bring it home for all of us:
I appreciate that your list includes sample slice / chop more than once. It is deservedly so 
Anyone notice the mixer not displaying track and stereo out levels? Just had this happen but it corrected itself after powering off then on again.
Welp, just tried to spend some time with a :52 second sample imported to the XY and get it to play nice…NOPE…
Black Screen of Death after trying to load another instance of the same Sample into the DrumKit so I could manually Chop the Sample and play what I wanted to hear.
Who is Actually Testing this device during BETA?
This is sampling basics!!!
Why is loading another copy of the same Sample causing the device to SIEZE up and CRASH?!?!?!?!?!
Back in the case it goes .
Yeeeesh…
I think thats because the max is 20 seconds for a sample
Doh…I think you’re right…
Crap…user error causes system failure 
I have been slowly reading the first big thread and now this user’s thread. Somewhere along the way my Op Xy arrived - I first sold some gear.
I had an OP-z in the past and liked that workflow a lot. One tends to hear more from people with issues than from happy users. Well, I am the quiet, happy user. Everything works. I made the first little tune within 5 minutes of getting the unit and have not stopped since. Look, feel, heft—really satisfying.
A few software improvements will be nice, but I love how it works and what it does today. It did freeze once (and just once) on me.
I easily created entire song structures using the brain and mixing and matching patterns across tracks in scenes. I have already made dozens of projects and add more daily. The workflow is fun and faster than any other I have seen. Note: I don‘t like using a computer outside of my day job, so this works for me.
I have started adding a few samples (dozens, not thousands) without issues, but I have been mostly content with the stock sounds and engines.
I will sell more gear I don’t see myself using much versus the OP XY.
I have no regrets buying this. I appreciate any designer who can conceive of a highly opinionated and sophisticated product (on every level ) and then will it into existence. What a feat.
On pricing:
An Ikea chair is fine for sitting, and in a pinch, one can sit on a crate. Yet some people who can afford it choose an Eames lounge chair. There is nothing wrong with that.
The field desk would easily be among the cheapest tables on design within reach (a US furniture retailer). It is a modern conundrum
that good design is so often not within reach for many.
I wish it were more affordable so more people could experience just how good it is, but to me, the OP XY is easily worth it, even if it was a financial stretch.
Since I signed up to write this, here are a few more notes:
I appreciate the many discussions and suggestions, especially @MichaalHell, for his tireless support and effort.
Also, @rephazer is one of the few channels I came to for the gear but stayed for the music. I have become a proper fan!
Sorry to those who have and had a bad experience. I understand how frustrating that must be. I am sure TE is not enjoying that and are having a stressful time of it. I hope it gets better for you and that TE keep designing amazing things that make the world a little more playful.
I’m totally with you on this! It’s a poor design choice and could be so easily fixed, but can’t make TE look uncool, no? 
I also fear that TE will not move away from this questionable font size. Even if this is against the current trend of designing more accessible software.
Sometimes I think they may be acting against their own customers. When I was younger, I would never have been able to afford a device in this price range. Now I can afford it, but my eyesight is much worse than it was back then 
I think the thing with TE is that they are their own customers…
I was hoping that they would have poorer eyesight, since they now are more middle age engineering 
Welcome to best gear forum ever 
I can agree with a lot of what you write. I also read the two threads regularly and knew about the many problems. When it became clear that nothing interesting was being presented at NAMM, I
ordered the OP-XY anyway, out of sheer impatience 
In the first few days I felt the same as you. Everything worked, I was thrilled. But the main reason I bought the OP-XY was and is the usage of multisamples. When I started importing and using my own multisamples, the crashes started. With some projects every few minutes. So my OP-XY crashes a lot as soon as multisamples came into the game.
The problem is known and TE has also confirmed in the latest release notes that there are some memory problems. So I’m hoping that the crashes will be fixed soon enough so that I don’t have to send back the XY within the return period which is 23 days from now. At least at the moment I believe that the problem will be solved very soon. Because it’s really really massive.
Haha, that reminds me of a story that happened to me in 2017: I needed a new office chair. I had set myself a budget of EUR 1,000 and tried out all kinds of chairs in all kinds of shops. So much so that at some point I got back problems from trying them out
I ended up with an Ikea Markus for 150 EUR, which I’m still happy with today.
I think the key here is Import. I have 0 issues with my multi samples which i sampled directly on the device. Not sure if there is additional information in the imported multi samples which causes the device to crash.
That may explain it, but it doesn’t excuse it
The fact is that the imported multisamples work fine: Mapping, root keys, sample loops, everything is transferred and played back correctly. Also, my multisamples are rather on the light side, they are neither large nor do they contain many samples.
When I load them into a new project and use them individually, there are no problems. As soon as the project grows and/or I use multiple multisample patches, the fun starts with the crashes. For me, this points to the memory problems mentioned above.
I sent mine back in the return window. loved a lot of it but alas the price to LFO ratio was a deal breaker 
Just not enough of em / destinations for my liking, that and the p-locking not being extensive on the drum sampler yet (can’t p-lock pitch for example).
it was just too expensive for me to hope they’d be improved in the future. if it was half the price I’d have taken the gamble.
so there’s a mint b-stock with no hardware issues in Gear4music if anyone in this part of the world is in the market for one.
I’m not sure if we’re describing the same thing in different ways but there’s both fade-in and fade-out per sample. Clicking the medium gray encoder switches between fade-in / fade-out. I have used fade out as a decay parameter in combination with sample end to shape drum samples with good results. proper ADSR per sample would be killer but the current system works ok imo.
