OP-XY vs M8

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I saw this demo a few weeks ago and I loved it. The sounds in it are amazing.

Since M8 is a Sampler too and have a lot of envelopes, lfos, filters,… I think you can make any sound you purpose on it!

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Ey mate! Did you receive the Korg??

Just got it! It is such a cool combo! Worked right out of the box with a trs cable. Too bad keyboard can’t get power from M8. But I can see myself having a small power bank powering both of these with two USB-C cables. Very much a minimalist setup. The keyboard feels a bit cheap, hoping it lasts. But for travel and on the go, can’t think of a better music making combo!

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I think that has more to do with the sensibility of the user. You can make anything on it… I made this using the sample engine and built in wavesynth… It’s an amazing hardware device for going off the rails and getting more abstract.

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I assume you tried and it doesn’t work to just plug direct USB-C to USB-C?

Yup, that was the first thing I tried. I didn’t expect it to work, but wishful thinking about only needing a USB-C cable between these two did kick in for a second. :slight_smile: :grimacing:

That’s my pipe dream lol — appreciate you trying!

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Thank you for all the info!!!:heart:

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The developer (Tim) has long been active in the chiptune community, and a lot of the users are as well. One of the engines, Wavsynth, is 8-bit and designed for this sound. But the other engines aren’t oriented this way. I have no interest in chiptune and no experience at all with games, and I am impressed with the sonic range of M8. Macrosynth is a port of Mutable Instruments Braids, so quite a variety of sounds, though each one with a limited set of macro parameters (like Syntakt engines). FM Synth resembles Digitone’s FM Tone, more general in some ways, more limited in others. Sampler similarly resembles Digitakt’s Oneshot. Hypersynth is like Syntakt’s SY Swarm or Digitone’s Swarmer. These will take you a long way in most genres.

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Macrosynth is amazing!

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for those of you who feel the M8 is less intuitive than the XY, what is it that you find not as intuitive about the M8, or what would you like to see on the M8 to make it more intuitive?

For me, once you know the device and your mind makes click, is SUPER-INTUITIVE.

It’s amazing to think that with 8 buttons, you can do everything, and with incredible speed. The problem is my wife, who has to put up with me every night listening to the sounds of mechanical keys at super speed. :rofl:

That said, I think that intuitive is confused with directness. In this sense, I think that the XY is more direct because it has a keyboard. The fact that it has dedicated buttons for the step components is also more direct for making lives (for me the best point of the XY besides its synthesizers).

However, those step components in my opinion are too simple tricks considering everything you can do with an M8 in terms of effects.

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There’s a video of a guy changing the battery of the OG-1 on youtube. He uses an off-the-shelf battery that he gets much cheaper for compared to that of the ifixit price. When you match the voltage of the battery, you’re usually halfway there with battery replacements.

Sauce:

I’ve been trying to produce results on the M8 similar to those on my beloved Digitone. So far, I have come up short. The other day I fell into a funk. I nearly convinced myself I’d never get the sound quality on the M8 that I do on the Digitone and that I should sell off my M8 before wasting any more time with it.

Later on, when I was in a better mood, I returned to a few projects I’d recently done on the M8 and improved their sound quality. It took the sum of many incremental adjustments to achieve this. My takeaway from all this is that nothing is going to sound good on the M8 “by accident”.

I am not a XY user, but I’m guessing that, from some of the accounts I’ve read, it has a more appealing sound “off the shelf”.

More money + less patience = XY (?)
Less money + more patience = M8 (?)

On the Digitone I never saved any patches. I would either start out with the default sound and modify it, or modify a preset. The patches were saved with the patterns, of course, but I never bothered to make them available globally. It was just too easy and fun to start over each time.

The M8, by contrast, motivates me to save patches. Perhaps because it (currently) takes longer to achieve success in sound design and texture.

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Another thing that M8 beats everything…

I’m on a trip. This is how much the M8 with charging cable, headphones and case takes up in my suitcase…

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Only thing that can beat this is perhaps a music app on a mobile phone. But then, you don’t have ins/outs, those clicky buttons,…
Great thing that m8 comes with the bag.

If possible, could you expand on why you were having difficulty with the M8 (I presume the FM Synth?) and what sort of incremental adjustments were necessary for improvement? Thanks!

Assigning individual EQ for each part. Removing low frequency components from a lot of parts. Shortening the length of drum samples. Using tables to adjust volume and cutoff of drum lines. Messing around with the ratio of clean and amp on synths. Dialing back some of the over-use of various effects. Setting the EQ for reverb to remove dissonance. A lot of little things. I will try out a project I fixed last night, with students in the classroom, today. We will see what happens.

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I was feeling guilty owning both the OP-XY and M8 so I decided to let one go. I ended up choosing to keep the OP-XY.

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If you have thought about it, it will always be a good option! Can you explain a little more about the reasons?